Bottom set, Bad/Good fold?....

No real reads on villian, now that I look back I feel I made a TERRIBLE laydown.

I really couldn't put him on a range of hands, but QT seems unlikely. Is this a push?

Hand 978022528, Started at 9/10/2006 12:07 AM
Table 'Halifax': $0.25-$0.25 No Limit HE (Real)
Seat 0: petenorth99 ($30.40 in chips)
Seat 1: griffin12003 ($65.45 in chips) (on the button)
Seat 2: freechus70 ($25.90 in chips)
Seat 3: MC P-Trap ($27.65 in chips)
Seat 5: karlsbad1 ($34.95 in chips)
Seat 6: catch16 ($19.75 in chips)
Seat 7: mrvagass ($12.65 in chips)
Seat 8: BobbySalamiX ($44.60 in chips)
Seat 9: lola49 ($5 in chips)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
Dealt to BobbySalamiX: 5h
Dealt to BobbySalamiX: 5c
freechus70 : Post Blind ($0.15)
MC P-Trap : Post Blind ($0.25)
lola49 : Post Blind ($0.25)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
karlsbad1 : Call ($0.25)
catch16 : Fold
mrvagass : Fold
BobbySalamiX : Call ($0.25)
lola49 : Check
petenorth99 : Fold
griffin12003 : Fold
freechus70 : Fold
MC P-Trap : Check
*** Flop *** : Jc 5s 8h
MC P-Trap : Check
karlsbad1 : Check
BobbySalamiX : Bet ($1)
lola49 : Fold
MC P-Trap : Fold
karlsbad1 : Call ($1)
*** Turn *** : [ Jc 5s 8h ] 9h
karlsbad1 : Bet ($2)
BobbySalamiX : Raise ($6)
karlsbad1 : Raise ($12)
BobbySalamiX : Fold
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $22.65 | Rake: $0.50
Board: [ Jc 5s 8h 9h ]
petenorth99 lost $0
griffin12003 lost $0
freechus70 lost $0.15
MC P-Trap lost $0.25
karlsbad1 bet $15.25, collected $22.65, net $7.40
catch16 lost $0
mrvagass lost $0
BobbySalamiX lost $7.25
lola49 lost $0.25

It's a bad fold but i don't understand the hh correctly, does he raise to a total of $12 or $12 more? 67 seems more likely than QT. 67 doesn't seem likely since he limped UTG unless it was SOOTED! QT is still a maybe though, moreso if he had QTs and a backdoor flush draw. I think a 3rd bet on the turn means at least 67, maybe a higher set. It's def. close because he could have a higher set but more likely has a straight and you have the odds to go for it.

Duuuuude. Push that shit.

if you don't want to push you can at least call and hope for a boat.

i bet it's 109.

He could have any two pair, a pair with a flush draw, a pair with a straight draw. Or he could have a straight or set.

But his range is pretty big here, and you are beating a lot of it.

Villain has J9. Hit his two pair on turn unless he's QT gutshot loose.

reading this hh was like watching a bad horror movie and screaming at the screen "NO!!! DON'T DO THAT, HE'S RIGHT THERE!!!

Yeah, I dont know what the fuck I was thinking here.....I was dogging myself the rest of the night for laying that down. I think I was tilting a bit from taking a bunch of beats earlier and felt I got sucked out on again.......

FUCK ME TO TEARS!

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Originally Posted by Massimo

i bet it's 109.

He could have any two pair, a pair with a flush draw, a pair with a straight draw. Or he could have a straight or set.

But his range is pretty big here, and you are beating a lot of it.

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I think you people are psycho. He doesn't have a pretty big range here. If this action happened on the flop, maybe. But on the turn at the $25 this is close to 100% 2p or better and it's very doubtful he has J9. Now we don't have a solid read but I don't think J9 is in the range of a typical UTG limper. I think JThh/JQhh is much more likely than J9.

why would you ever fold here?
Id need to see thsi guy call repeatedly with 4 outs all the time to fold here.

If youre not willing to stack off with bottom set, then when will you stack off?

Look down, grab your nuts, and squeeze.

Yes, this was fuckin pitiful play. I was pissed at myself for a long time after this....I think it was a result of tilting after suckout after suckout......I was playing tired too.

Eh, im such a fish.