Terry's 4 big hands 9/21.

******* Hand 1 ********
Villain is 8/1

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
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9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $101.50
UTG+1: $210.20
MP1: $117.30
MP2: $192.50
MP3: $29.50
CO: $139.60
TerryToma: $103.10
SB: $101.00
BB: $82.30

Pre-flop: (9 players) TerryToma is Button with 5:diamond: 5:spade:
5 folds, CO raises to $5, TerryToma calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 5:club: 8:diamond: T:heart: ($15.5, 3 players)
BB bets $3, CO raises to $18, TerryToma raises to $35, BB folds, CO raises to $52, TerryToma ...


******* Hand 2 ********
Villain 14/4

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $37.50
UTG+1: $74.90
UTG+2: $46.25
MP1: $96.00
MP2: $136.10
MP3: $132.40
CO: $74.30
Button: $90.90
TerryToma: $104.90
BB: $25.40

Pre-flop: (10 players) TerryToma is SB with A:club: A:heart:
7 folds, Button raises to $2, TerryToma raises to $7, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 9:heart: 7:heart: 4:spade: ($15, 2 players)
TerryToma bets $12, Button calls.

Turn: 2:spade: ($39, 2 players)
TerryToma ...

******* Hand 3 ********
Villains a bit loose/unknown.

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Stack sizes:
TerryToma: $99.00
UTG+1: $67.30
MP1: $31.50
MP2: $99.00
MP3: $76.45
UTG+1: $74.9
CO: $23.40
Button: $91.60
SB: $23.60
BB: $112.30

Pre-flop: (9 players) TerryToma is UTG with J:heart: J:diamond:
TerryToma raises to $4, 4 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3:heart: 8:spade: 4:spade: ($12.5, 3 players)
BB checks, TerryToma bets $8, CO raises all-in $19.4, BB calls, TerryToma calls.

Turn: 6:club: ($70.7, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $70.7)
BB checks, TerryToma bets $20, BB raises all-in $88.9, TerryToma ...

******* Hand 4 ********
Villain loose 65/2.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $178.90
UTG+1: $100.00
UTG+2: $63.60
MP1: $175.60
MP2: $191.50
MP3: $127.00
CO: $81.50
Button: $130.80
SB: $66.50
TerryToma: $133.00

Pre-flop: (10 players) TerryToma is BB with J:spade: K:club:
5 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, TerryToma checks.

Flop: K:spade: 5:club: T:heart: ($4, 4 players)
SB checks, TerryToma bets $2, MP3 calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: 4:diamond: ($10, 3 players)
TerryToma checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

River: 3:club: ($10, 3 players)
TerryToma bets $2, MP3 folds, Button raises to $10, TerryToma ...

push, 32, fold, fold

1.) I guess u have to push it
2.) How about check raise if u know opponent is aggro.
Against passive 2/3-3/3 pot.
3.) Fold
4.) Fold

1. Let your timer run down a little and call. The board is safe, so let him put you on a worse overpair and hang himself on the turn.

2. Post-flop stats? If he's aggressive, I might c/r, but normally I lead for $30 here.

3. Man... you're getting almost 3:1 to call, but BB's line looks like a set if I've ever seen one. Fold.

4. Call. Getting almost 3:1, he only has to be bluffing a little more than 1:4 times for this to be +EV. He could be sensing your weakness and trying to rep the straight.

push, $30ish, fold, call

Hand #1: Given this is a significant sample size, the 1% of hands he raises is AA and nothing else. On the flop he has already put in TWO raises, which to me screams that he is not letting this go. Go ahead and put it all in now, I think if you just call some sort of "scare" card may show up...which for him may be a K or another T or who knows what. Get it in while he's still willing.

Hand #2: The board appears to be "relatively" safe, and the button minraise from a 4% raiser (again, if this is a large sample), most likely means an overpair of some sort. There's also the possibility of some odd flush draw - KQh or something, but that's a pretty remote chance. Either way, you want to get money in now. I'd probably put in about $33 and hope for a call, this doesn't really scream action board to me.

Hand #3: Labeling villains "Loose" immediately makes me take more looks at the flop. Without particular numbers, do we think hands like 43 are in these villains ranges? Probably. But look deeper at the actual line.

BB checks. You bet $8, shortie goes in for almost 2.5x more ($20), BB CALLS. BB CALLS. BB CALLS. Calling of a bet AND a raise (not to mention a damn allin) means he likes his hand. He may not be very afraid of the shortie, but you have a full stack and he calls the raise anyway. He likes it a lot. I don't mind the flop call, but the turn comes and the BB checks again. This smells an awful lot like slowplaying a monster. You bet, get raised. It's time to lay it down, I'd expect no less than 2 pair from the BB. (My guess is you would have the CO beaten, however) Personally, in some spots like this I may at times check..you do have position, and unless you thought he was loose enough to call on some sort of draw...well, some of the draws completed, and he told you he wants it all in NOW. It's still fine the way it's played.

Hand #4: It'd be nice to have an aggression number on the villain. It's been my experience in 25/50/100NL that the river bluffs at this level are few and far between. When villain has a vpip of 60+, he could have any sort of weird two pair 54, K3s, A2 (hidden straight, got a cheap river!)...and usually when you see sleeping dragons come to life in these situations you usually have the worst of it with one pair. Again I'd have to let this one go...but I'm just curious, why $2 on the river, are you purposely trying to induce a raise, and thus this decision? If I felt I was ahead (and wanted a better shot at takin the pot down with no showdown) I'd bet $7.

In Hand 1, unless you have a really aggressive image, I prefer a "deliberating" call. By pushing and forcing him to call off another $46, I think you give him a chance to put you on a set and fold. There are very few scare cards that can come on the turn and cause him not to lead. If he has AA there might be 3 (any T) and if he has KK then 7 (any A, any T). There's about a combined 10% chance of one of those cards coming, and I think a nit is folding to a flop push more than 10% of the time here.

Hand 4: It's a lot easier to call pot when you check this river.

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Originally Posted by zook

In Hand 1, unless you have a really aggressive image, I prefer a "deliberating" call. By pushing and forcing him to call off another $46, I think you give him a chance to put you on a set and fold. There are very few scare cards that can come on the turn and cause him not to lead. If he has AA there might be 3 (any T) and if he has KK then 7 (any A, any T). There's about a combined 10% chance of one of those cards coming, and I think a nit is folding to a flop push more than 10% of the time here.

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At the time of Hero's decision whether to push or call, the pot is roughly $90 (right?). I don't think if you push $46 more, he is going to fold his AA to a pot of almost $130. Even if he does, isn't taking down the pot here better than Villain hitting a possible two outer with two cards to come?

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Originally Posted by Setzy

At the time of Hero's decision whether to push or call, the pot is roughly $90 (right?). I don't think if you push $46 more, he is going to fold his AA to a pot of almost $130. Even if he does, isn't taking down the pot here better than Villain hitting a possible two outer with two cards to come?

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I'm not sure whether he'll fold a $136 pot for $46, but if he's a nit (and his pre-flop stats suggest he is) there's definitely a chance. The way I figure it, if that chance is higher than 15% (not 10% like I put in my last post) then you might be better off calling here. Where I get 15%...

- If he has AA, there are five bad cards that can come to beat us, or possibly kill our action (any A, any T) - 5/45 = 11%
- If he has KK, there are nine bad cards (any A, any K, any T) - 9/45 = 20%
- Assuming he has AA & KK equally in this spot, there's a 15% chance of a bad card coming on the turn. This is a little high I think, because I think he's less likely to call a push with KK, but it's close.

I'm not saying a push is bad, just that if you have a post-flop read that he's weak or nitty, a call might be better.

Hand 1: If that 8/1 is over a decent sample he has AA and this is an easy push.

Hand 2: A 14/4 has QQ/JJ here alot. If he's aggro c/r AI, if not bet 3/4 pot.

Hand 3: This is an easy fold and was well played before being c/r'ed.

Hand 4: I'd check the river here again but that's just me, I'd fold to this river raise as well.

I don't understand why you keep making these little 1/4 or 1/5 pot bets.

Good job guys, good discussion.

Results

Hand 1, i pushed, oppo calls with JJ

Hand 2, i had a feeling oppo was on a weaker overpair. 40$ on turn, oppo pushes with TT

Hand 3, i thought a long time, and called. SS had Ad3d, pusher had A8o

Hand 4, i called, oppo had J9o

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Originally Posted by mcatdog

I don't understand why you keep making these little 1/4 or 1/5 pot bets.

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they drive me crazy when oppos do it to me, so i was trying it out. worse hands call, and with laggs, worse hands raise. better hands sometimes just call or raise.