Boring hand, interesting table chat, timing is everything.

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10-08-2006, 02:45 AM
Fnord

Boring hand, interesting table chat, timing is everything.

I've folded just about every hand since I've sat down, 2-3 orbits. Last hand I raised limpers from my BB with QJo and took it down pre-flop.

I think BB is TAgg, I've seen him before but he's not in my database. He's opened a lot of hands, some on a limp so he might be in a high gear or my read might suck.

CO just sat down on a short-buy.

There is one other fish at the table, not in this hand, everyone else has been fairly tight, in line and playing small pots.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($44.65)
Button ($189.80)
Fnord ($204)
BB ($235.80)
UTG ($104.90)
MP ($197)

Preflop: Fnord is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, MP calls $2, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Fnord insta-raises to $10, BB fairly quickly re-raises to $21, MP folds, CO raises to $44.65, Fnord thinks.... calls $34.65, BB quickly re-raises to $235.8, Fnord thinks.... calls $159.35 (All-In).

How'd I do? BB seemed to be very surprised I considered laying this down.
10-08-2006, 09:30 AM
euphoricism

Dont think you should fold, but if BB has anything but AA I'd be very, very surprised.
10-08-2006, 09:49 AM
Renton

easy call

bb 5bets a very wide range to isolate the shorty, including AK, QQ, JJ, and possibly AQ or TT.
10-08-2006, 10:00 AM
euphoricism

I might just shove it in after CO re-reraises.
10-08-2006, 10:10 AM
Robert

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

easy call

bb 5bets a very wide range to isolate the shorty, including AK, QQ, JJ, and possibly AQ or TT.

i agree with renton. I think someone posted a similiar hand a couple of days ago where he was the BB and he pushed over with AK to isolate the shorty who was already allin in the hand
10-08-2006, 03:05 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by euphoricism

if BB has anything but AA I'd be very, very surprised.

If you think this, then calling is absurd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by euphoricism

I might just shove it in after CO re-reraises.

I pretty much ruled this out. BB rarely makes a mistake if I do this and I want to make sure I get the best of his $180 behind.
10-08-2006, 07:28 PM
Toadstool

The faster the raises the less likely its AA and more likely AK/QQ/JJ
10-08-2006, 07:44 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toadstool

The faster the raises the less likely its AA and more likely AK/QQ/JJ

Yeah, if he starts his time bank, it's likely hollywood with the nuts.
10-08-2006, 08:08 PM
gabe

i like every action
10-09-2006, 02:18 AM
Robert

Fnord,

Did he have AK/JJ then? That would be the most likely hands I would put him on.
10-09-2006, 02:26 AM
Fnord

Tall stack had TT
Shortie had Q7s

I flop a King and it's easy money.

Tall stack gave me a ton of shit over tanking.
10-09-2006, 03:43 AM
Robert

yeah TT is defenitly in his range as well.

BB's way of playing this hand is kinda "standard" for thinking players, and when this situation comes up once in a while it can be huge leak against thinking players and can be exploited, just like you did! nh dude
10-09-2006, 09:01 AM
arkana

Easy easy call, nothing to think about. Im not in the never fold KK pf camp but this is definitely not the spot to fold.
10-09-2006, 02:19 PM
elipsesjeff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Tall stack had TT
Shortie had Q7s

I flop a King and it's easy money.

Tall stack gave me a ton of shit over tanking.

"Sorry, I was too busy remembering how dumb people are"

or

"I'm playing 12 tables, i almost folded"

or my favorite:

"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

Not pushing like this preflop is an excellent line, and I probably wouldn't have done it. Well played.
10-09-2006, 09:18 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Not pushing like this preflop is an excellent line, and I probably wouldn't have done it. Well played.

Difference in mind-set. I wasn't playing for the pot, I was playing for his stack.