Top and bottom pair with too much action

UTG+1 is 30.3/9.4/1.00 after 288 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($51.65)
UTG+1 ($113.40)
MP1 ($40.40)
MP2 ($21.15)
MP3 ($44.35)
CO ($23)
Hero ($56.85)
SB ($58.55)
BB ($44.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $1, Hero raises to $3.5, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $8, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero...what's your plan?

fold

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Originally Posted by Renton

fold

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What do you put him on? AA/QQ/AQ seem pretty unlikely from a 30/9 player. And 77 is less likely with hero holding one.

weak two pair + multiway unraised pot + utg limp+ player who checkraises over a flop raise = i fold

With those numbers, you'd think he'd raise 77/AQ preflop. That said, I'd still fold. He's going to make us play for stacks here, and I don't want to!

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Mac

With those numbers, you'd think he'd raise 77/AQ preflop. That said, I'd still fold. He's going to make us play for stacks here, and I don't want to!

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I thought the same thing. But if I'm usually ahead of his range should I really fold? In the actual hand I called his raise and folded to his insta pot sized bet on a total blank turn. The more I think about this the more I think he had Qxdd or KJdd/JTdd. I just can't come up with a hand that beats mine that he'd limp unless it was A7s or a missed limp/raise with AA. But then again his aggression after the flop is only 1.00 after a good deal of hands and he's throwing in a 3rd bet here.

the reason you should fold here is because you can't just call, and if you shove you are BA/WB when called.

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Originally Posted by Renton

the reason you should fold here is because you can't just call, and if you shove you are BA/WB when called.

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We could call and then pork him on the turn if it's a blank?

i think you are good here. call and showdown cheap.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Mac

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Originally Posted by Renton

the reason you should fold here is because you can't just call, and if you shove you are BA/WB when called.

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We could call and then pork him on the turn if it's a blank?

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True, but the turn only really improves our equity against a flush draw. Top pair better kicker still has tons of outs to draw out. Also, we can't stand a very big bet on the turn, but we expect to meet one.

Hand range Renton? I think Hero's ahead here more often than not. I probably re-raise to ~$20 on the flop but I'm not sure that gets the most value out of worse hands.

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Originally Posted by zook

Hand range Renton?

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AA, 77

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Originally Posted by TerryToma

i think you are good here. call and showdown cheap.

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And how exactly to you plan to show down cheap against a highly probable huge turn bet followed by an all-in on the river?

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Originally Posted by Renton

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Originally Posted by zook

Hand range Renton?

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AA, 77

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lol

AA, 77, QdXd, KdJd, JdTd

we don't beat that range either :(

calling and shoving a blank turn isn't that bad of a course of action, but probably a pretty high variance / low ev play.