Some Ace X suited questions?? <3 hands>

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10-31-2006, 09:39 PM
mrhappy333

Some Ace X suited questions?? <3 hands>

What do you do in these hands? How do you play them?
I think alot of people run into these situations.

HAND 1

This hand, you flop and ace and you have 4 to the nut flush, what to do?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($4.82)
UTG ($27.07)
Hero ($11.07)
MP1 ($9.95)
MP2 ($26.20)
MP3 ($7.14)
CO ($11.15)
Button ($10)
SB ($18.58)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, 3 folds, CO calls $0.05, Button raises to $0.2, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15.

Flop: ($0.67) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($0.67) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.4, CO folds, Button raises to $0.8, Hero calls $0.40.

River: ($2.27) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button raises to $4, Hero calls $3.

Final Pot: $10.27

Results in white below:
Hero has 8c Ac (one pair, aces).
Button has 9d Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Button wins $10.27.

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HAND 2

similar situation..

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

CO ($6.46)
Button ($3.95)
Hero ($13.27)
BB ($3.27)
UTG ($13.13)
MP1 ($1.90)
MP2 ($3.09)

Preflop: Hero is SB with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/qh.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ah.gif.
4 folds, Button raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.5, 1 fold, Button calls $0.35.

Flop: ($1.05) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/7d.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/3h.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/kh.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.55, Button raises to $3.45, Hero calls $2.90.

Turn: ($7.95) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/tc.gif (2 players)

River: ($7.95) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/qs.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $7.95

Results in white below:
Hero has Qh Ah (one pair, queens).
Button has Ks Td (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: Button wins $7.95.

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HAND 3

This one just bothers me..

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($18.91)
Hero ($15.19)
BB ($6.95)
UTG ($9.93)
MP ($9.40)
CO ($15.04)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.5, 1 fold, MP calls $0.35.

Flop: ($1.05) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.55, Hero raises to $1.7, MP calls $1.15.

Turn: ($4.45) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $7.2 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $11.65

Results in white below:
No showdown. MP wins $11.65.
10-31-2006, 10:12 PM
dpe8598

Hand #1: Do not min-raise w/ that hand in that position, really really bad, building a pot OOP w/ a mediocre hand.

Hand #2: I like this hand a lot better preflop. Next, you've gotta love this flop and you played it OK, however, he reraises you his entire stack. I've gotta think your usually pretty far behind here and there wasn't all that much money in the pot, so I think I would usually fold to the push. However, there are certainly situations where I would call, the A helps against players that push w/ top pair lower kicker.

Hand #3: The reraise is good from the SB, especially if there is any chance that this guy is stealing from there. Next, you played the flop OK, although I might have just led out rather than built the pot so quickly. I think the fold was probably the right move.
11-01-2006, 01:37 AM
martindcx1e

1. Bet flop. Check river. Fold to raise.
2. Fold to push.
3. Fine.
11-01-2006, 02:22 AM
Fnord

Hand 1: Meh, if I checked the flop I would check the turn too. Any other Broadway holding has you in trouble. Make your hand a bluff catcher and go nuts if you improve.

Hand 2: Standard.

Hand 3: Why are you re-raising pre-flop? Do you think he's raising light? Post-flop is just donk-tastic spew. Against bad players, don't expect to get a fold from a single act of aggression. They will call just to see if you follow through.
11-01-2006, 02:38 AM
nutsinho

are you guys serious about folding to the flop push by shorty? I think we are generally expecting to see approximately the hand he has which gives us..
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7d Kh 3h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Td 539 54.44 451 45.56 0 0.00 0.544
Ah Qh 451 45.56 539 54.44 0 0.00 0.456

easiest call ever
11-01-2006, 03:42 PM
dpe8598

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

are you guys serious about folding to the flop push by shorty? I think we are generally expecting to see approximately the hand he has which gives us..
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7d Kh 3h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Td 539 54.44 451 45.56 0 0.00 0.544
Ah Qh 451 45.56 539 54.44 0 0.00 0.456

easiest call ever

Your being a bit results oriented, you obviously looked at the results before posting, which I don't think we did. Also, note that I said that the A gives you some value to call against opponents that will push w/ top pair crappy kicker. However, opponents betting on a draw heavy board indicates he may be stronger than that. Even if you are 70% sure he is pushing w/ top pair crappy kicker or worse, you are losing value by calling w/ whats left behind. You would have to be close to 100% sure, which you are only that sure because you saw the results.

AK is a very real possiblity here, which kills 3 of your outs.

Anyways, I call against dontastikness here, but fold to tights or unknowns.