Let's dance?

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11-02-2006, 06:02 PM
Warpe

Let's dance?

UTG+1 has pushed QQ preflop in a previous hand. BB's reraise is more concerning. Not sure I can ever fold here.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $197.40
UTG+1: $417.95
CO: $102.70
Hero: $183.30
SB: $219.10
BB: $207

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K:club: K:diamond:
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $7, CO folds, Hero raises to $21, SB folds, BB raises to $71, UTG+1 raises all-in $417.95, Hero calls all-in $162.3, BB calls all-in $136.
Uncalled bets: $210.95 returned to UTG+1.
11-02-2006, 06:09 PM
Fnord

I'd fold if the money was deeper.
11-02-2006, 07:12 PM
Chopper

even if i played up with your limits, i cant fold KK pf. one of the two probably has rockets, but when you are 2nd to act, how can you tell if the one you fear is going to call? i know he RRed your RR, but he may have JJ and trying to isolate UTG+1 or you. he wants one or both of you to fold here.

you are also shorty here, amongst those in the hand. what better hand are you waiting to get the money in with? AA?

Fnord knows WAAYY more than i do, but i just cant see how you fold here, no matter the stacks. you have to be better than 33% to triple up here most times. and i think that stack size is more important when you have more chips, too, right? i mean, if he has you covered, he has you covered. what difference does it make if he has $1000?

but maybe thats a factor of the donks i play down here.
11-02-2006, 07:51 PM
Happy Jones

Never say I cant fold whens it not the nuts.
Good fold theres a high chance at least one of them has AA.
11-02-2006, 08:39 PM
Chopper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Jones

Never say I cant fold whens it not the nuts.
Good fold theres a high chance at least one of them has AA.

sure we all brag about folding KK to AA like its a great laydown. pf, its fairly easy to spot, but with the morons out there, you hardly know anymore. i have done it twice in my life. could have done it with a high percentage of surety lots of times, but i have also folded to JJ, AT, and other crap a lot more. those big mistakes have cost me more than getting stacked by AA.

and, i tend to see better action when i go up against the AA w/ my KK or maybe AK. i dont know why, but i do.
11-02-2006, 08:46 PM
UG

If there were ever a time to fold KK preflop...

Ehh, fuck it, I'm dancing like it's 1999. Ohh yeah, I'm going to spike a K and keep on dancing!