Overplaying My Pocket Jacks?

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11-13-2006, 10:10 PM
JL

Overplaying My Pocket Jacks?

Both players have VP$IP > 50%.

A PSB here would leave me with $30...so I cant do that.....Is this push standard, or am I overplaying my jacks? Do I just call from the BB here, or is my raise good?

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($115.05)
Button ($67.50)
SB ($153.50)
Hero ($137.95)
UTG ($165.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
UTG raises to $4, MP calls $4, Button calls $4, SB calls $3.50, Hero raises to $25, UTG folds, MP calls $21, Button folds, SB calls $21.

Flop: ($83) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $112.95 (All-In)
Final Pot: $195.95
11-13-2006, 11:35 PM
IowaSkinsFan

what's the point? Value bet lower pairs.
11-14-2006, 12:57 AM
nutsinho

i agree with ISF, there isnt really a reason to bet more than 40-45 on this flop
11-14-2006, 02:00 AM
TerryToma

i dont mind it.. a lesser overpair or 2 unpaired overs might call.
11-14-2006, 10:12 AM
Alexos

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryToma

i dont mind it.. a lesser overpair or 2 unpaired overs might call.

That would be a disgusting call. Agreed about the lesser overpair though.
I'd just bet 45 to max value, in the longterm I think this is +ev. All in would chase away ppl over which you're wayyy ahead.
11-14-2006, 11:23 AM
SmackinYaUp

Its good to commit yourself here without pushing. Bet 50 and call the rest. QQ is your biggest fear. I doubt they'd cold-call such a big raise with AA-KK instead of just pushing in a multi-way pot.
11-14-2006, 11:39 AM
gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

i agree with ISF, there isnt really a reason to bet more than 40-45 on this flop

but when you bet 40 and they call and a K rolls off the turn it confuses everything
11-14-2006, 12:24 PM
Fnord

It's fine.
11-14-2006, 08:10 PM
SmackinYaUp

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

i agree with ISF, there isnt really a reason to bet more than 40-45 on this flop

but when you bet 40 and they call and a K rolls off the turn it confuses everything

I doubt a king or even an ace are going to hit often enough on that one street to make up for the loose action a smaller bet will get. Even if it does, its not going to improve many hands that we were previously beating. No matter what, a $50 bet is committing. Only difference is it looks a little better to villain than pushing.
11-14-2006, 09:58 PM
JL

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

i agree with ISF, there isnt really a reason to bet more than 40-45 on this flop

but when you bet 40 and they call and a K rolls off the turn it confuses everything

Yeah that is what I was afraid of, so that's why I just pushed. Also, I have been running bad lately, getting sucked out on in every large pot, so I just said eff it Im pushing this.

But next time I think I will just bet around $50 to commit myself and hope I dont get sucked out on....that would definitely make more money in the long run because pushing here probably causes mid PP's to fold, but $50 bet might get called by a mid pair...especially from a fish.

BTW they both folded after a looong pause.