I AM FAT YO

i dont think i live very healthily. when i was in high school i played soccer almost every day of the week and my mom always cooked good healthy meals. the opposite is true for the past 3 years. the only exercise i get is walking around town (which i admit is alot of walking, but not a good exercise regime alone) and almost all of my meals are delivered or eaten at restaurants. after high school i weight about 165, now i weigh about 195.

i need advice on good stuff to eat. for example, i just bought some mashed potatoes, gravy, and corn. yesterday i had some chinese food which consisted of rice and spicy chicken. should any of these be cut out? what common foods cause weight gain?

also i snack alot. i need some good ideas for something i can eat a ton of without it really mattering.

i know these questions' answers arent the solution to the big picture but anything related to this that anyone can post is appreciated.

195 fuuuuck dude

Dieting sucks, atleast for me. I was on a very successful cardio 6 times a week for an hr and >1500 cal a day diet for some time but its hard to maintain through holidays. These days, i try to avoid snacking all together, eat small healthy meals through out the day and dont really worry if i have 3 small ones, 4 small ones, 5 small ones. Some days im real hungry, others im not.

I lift a lot and do cardio less as i find it more and more an absolute chore.

One tip is: Don't think that diet alone or excersise alone is the solution. Commit to both now.

Just to note on my dieting history, like 1.5 yrs ago, i was 270 worked down to 225, slipped up to 245 about 4 or 5 months ago and am now down to 230 with a lot more muscle mass than i had at 225 easily.

Move your carbs to bkfst and lunch so you can burn them off during the day (So hardly any bread/pizza/pasta/potatoes etc. in the evening. A tiny little bit is okay.) Snack on carrot sticks, fruit, that sort of thing instead of junk. There's lots of convenient packaged stuff out there - craisins, dried apricots, all sorts of stuff.

Generally, eat less, exercise more.

I haven't seen 195 since the sixth grade....LOL Just kidding. Just feels like it I think.

Any carbs and starches will tend to stick to you if you don't work them off. Mashed potatoes are a fattening food, with the butter and milk in them. Matter of fact, the only nonfattening potato is a plain baked one. Gravy....bad. Rice, see: potatoes.

More or less if it tastes especially good, it's fattening. Sauces on any food are fattening. You are better off with lean meats and vegetables to cut calories. Dairy products are high in calories and fat. However, if you cut any of these out completely, you will likely miss some vitamins you should have.

Bottom line is this, and it's a fact: If you use more calories than you consume, you will lose weight. So if you choose to eat more, you have to work more to keep it off. Unfortunately, I am not good at either. I don't eat quite right, and I don't spend nearly enough time at the gym. That will change though. I looked at a pic taken of me this weekend and for the first time in my life, I saw a fat man looking back at me......

Good luck man. Hope it helps. Lord knows you help me enough with cards.....

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Originally Posted by Warpe

Generally, eat less, exercise more.

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If you drink soda stop. What do you snack on?

If you eat foods with more protein it will keep you full longer. I eat a lot of sandwiches for lunch. Instead of having two sandwiches at noon, it's better to eat one at 11 and one at 2 (like rilla said, more smaller meals).

Eat breakfast when you get up, it gets your metabolism going and helps regulate your body better. You don't "feel hungry" when you're not. Bagel, cereal, yogurt, power bar, eggs, etc.

Little things help. Try to cook instead of eating out. Buy 90% lean beef instead of buying fast food, fries in the oven are better than deep fried fast food. If you make mashed potatoes don't add butter. If you drink milk buy 1% instead of 2% (if you exercise at all 1% is better than skim). Little things add up.

One for me was to stop eating Stouffer's pizza. There is like 35 grams of fat per pizza.

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Originally Posted by swiggidy

Eat breakfast when you get up, it gets your metabolism going and helps regulate your body better.

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This is really important. Smoothies are awesome for breakfast.

Metabolism has a lot to do with it. You don't "naturally" burn off calories like you did when you were 15, your body isn't growing like it did.

Calorie consumption is huge. Less sugar, especially refined sugar. Carbs don't really matter IMO. They're harder to work off in general but they'll help you if you follow what I do.

Go to a gym. You can afford a membership. Make sure they have TVs on the treadmills. Watch WSOP. Or whatever. The TVs are beyond clutch. But do this:
Speed of 3.5
Incline of 10.00.

Basically a good paced walk at a pretty good gradient. Every 2 minutes, increase speed by 0.1, and incline by 0.2. Do this as high as you can without having to jog. It's key that you walk, even if it's as fast as you can possibly walk.

I generally get going to about 4.6 speed, incline of 14.0. The increase is gradual so its not like you DIE, but its harsh. You WILL want to stop. Don't. Gut it out.

After about 20 minutes, runners high will kick in. From then on, while you'll feel really tired... you'll never get more tired. You'll stay at the same level as long as you choose to do this. Doing this will burn 600-1100 calories in an hour. That's a shit ton, and really, after you get the hang of it, it isn't that big a deal anymore. Watch TV, remark how Jamie Gold is a fish, space out, and an hour later you'll be done.

Doing this not only knocks out a TON of calories, but it increases your metabolism, helping you burn them even when you're not exercising.

The change will be dramatic inside 2 weeks. Wouldn't be shocked at 10+ pounds being gone.

i have high metabolism. i eat alot (mostly bad stuff), am the laziest mfer youll ever meet, and i am 135 soaking wet... it sucks

but yeah one of the biggest thing is replacing pop with water or just replacing chocolate/other bad snacks with fruit or something. just little things like that can pwn fat.

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Originally Posted by takesix

Metabolism has a lot to do with it. You don't "naturally" burn off calories like you did when you were 15, your body isn't growing like it did.

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If you decide to go to the gym, any muscle you add will increase your metabolism, thus add fat loss.

Aerobics is a good place to start. If you want more after ~3 weeks read euro's workout thread.

Play some ultimate

you should try to lose your money and become poor, gabe. the more poor you are, the more you're forced to stay at home and make your own food. generally speaking, food you make yourself is healthier than any food from outside ...

lemme know if you want someone to give money to. i wouldn't mind becoming a little fatter ...

its a little scary that i could have truthfully typed word for word the same story as gabe, except for the part about specific foods purchased yesterday.

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Originally Posted by courtiebee

you should try to lose your money and become poor, gabe. the more poor you are, the more you're forced to stay at home and make your own food. generally speaking, food you make yourself is healthier than any food from outside ...

lemme know if you want someone to give money to. i wouldn't mind becoming a little fatter ...

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I don't know, for me buying groceries is usually more expensive than going out (unless I go someplace really fancy). I don't cook the same types of meals as most people though. It's definitely a LOT healthier and tastes way better in general, unless you suck at cooking.

It's hard to find healthy food that tastes good unless you cook it yourself (or someone in your family cooks it for you). Do you still live in a dorm or do you have a kitchen? Pick some vegetables that you like, and buy a cookbook or get on the Internet and find some healthy recipes that are based on them. Another good thing about cooking is that you usually have leftovers and then you can snack on them the next day instead of snacking on junk food when you're hungry. Also, definitely stop drinking pop if you do, that shit is terrible for you.

I don't really have any advice on exercise because I don't do it enough, but I'd say I have a healthier diet than 95% of Americans so I stay in good shape. I should still exercise though.

taebo FTW

also, if you can stick to these fancy plans above, great, but if you are like me trying to re invent yourself as Oprah's chef tomorrow is probably going to last about a week. Think of a couple bad things you eat, cut them out or reduce them or replace them, see if you can handle a couple more next month.

It took time to get fat, it takes time to lose weight also. Between my senoir year of college and my first year out I put on probably 40 pounds, but I quit eating fast food every day for lunch, got a dog and lost the first 20 pretty easy. The other 20 was a lot harder and took a couple years of Taebo along with lots of trying to limit desserts and adding in fruits and veggies, etc. Now I weigh same as I did in HS and I'm a lot stronger than I was then.

Maintain some belly, chicks like for you to have more tummy than they do.

Also, consider doing coke rather than drinking. You've got money!

ty everyone for responses so far, but i did forget something

i have stopped soda, except for when im making myself alcoholic drinks..also i drink alot of beers. probably at least 4 nights/week i have at least 3 beers. im pretty sure this is bad too...but i dont see how i could cut this out. i would think this adds in to the 'exercise more' thing.

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Originally Posted by courtiebee

you should try to lose your money and become poor, gabe. the more poor you are, the more you're forced to stay at home and make your own food. generally speaking, food you make yourself is healthier than any food from outside ...

lemme know if you want someone to give money to. i wouldn't mind becoming a little fatter ...

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its funny because having money was kinda what caused this..instead of saving up and just ordering something small i wouldjust order 6 appetizers for me and my friends to pick at because the money doesnt matter

lol do you really do taebo? sorry I just cant respect that.

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Originally Posted by drmcboy

Also, consider doing coke rather than drinking. You've got money!

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thanks bro!

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Originally Posted by gabe

ty everyone for responses so far, but i did forget something

i have stopped soda, except for when im making myself alcoholic drinks..also i drink alot of beers. probably at least 4 nights/week i have at least 3 beers. im pretty sure this is bad too...but i dont see how i could cut this out. i would think this adds in to the 'exercise more' thing.

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I totally feel you here. Ughh option is drinking the low calorie beers. Another would be to drink mixed drinks with diet soda. Or just buy some good whiskey and drink it on the rocks.

lol

i seriously think that drmcboy is the smartest guy in this forum

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Originally Posted by gabe

ty everyone for responses so far, but i did forget something

i have stopped soda, except for when im making myself alcoholic drinks..also i drink alot of beers. probably at least 4 nights/week i have at least 3 beers. im pretty sure this is bad too...but i dont see how i could cut this out. i would think this adds in to the 'exercise more' thing.

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I totally feel you here. Ughh option is drinking the low calorie beers. Another would be to drink mixed drinks with diet soda. Or just buy some good whiskey and drink it on the rocks.

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this is a good idea. less drinks mixing with soda....besides, drinking it straight is more balla

10 push-ups every time you get stacked

Dont drink and eat at the same time, if you are going to be drinking eat less than normally. If you drink regularly (4 times per week plus) then it will be very difficult to lose weight.

Exercise, it has lots of other benefits too.

in order of importance:

1) 6-8 small meals a day, high in protein. you don't have to be a bodybuilder or anything but be conscious of what goes in your body. obviously mashed potatoes, gravy, and corn is a terrible meal, ditto with the large majority of food that you can get delivered or eat in a restaurant. Sorry if this is what you didn't want to hear. (do as I say and not as I do in this department and you'll be better off. there was a time when I didn't eat japanese food every day....)

2) good lifting routine

3) cardio and other exercise. Move up here and we can ball it up and go snowboarding a few times a week in the winter (after we workout of course). holla

edit: this is kinda harsh. I just dropped 5 buyins on the most ridiculous shit ever and I might be steaming. Give me a call tomorrow or something and I'll help you out, if you want.

drmc is spot on. Little changes can make a big difference and most people find it impossible to go instantly from a bad diet to a great one. Things like cutting down on sugar in hot drinks (say from 2 to 1) or using sweetner or getting low fat spread instead of using butter and so on.

My advice is to give up one of your beer nights and make this a night you excercise instead. Also make it something you enjoy or you won't stick to it. I struggle at the gym because it's so damn boring so instead I play football (soccer), cricket, badminton and also cycle a lot.

Then begin to introduce fruit and veg into your diet. You can fill up on this stuff and will reduce your need for crap food. If you need to snack, get something like cashew nuts or dried fruit pieces.

Finally, check your weight once a week on the same day at the same time with the same scales and clothes (or with no clothes). Then keep a record of your progress. Then can then increase your healthy regime as you see fit (e.g. more exercise, fruit + veg) when you are ready.

Finally, eating healthy (and cooking it yourself) is not difficult - it's just a matter of discipline and practice. I used to eat crap but now eat pretty well but I find it easy because I've been doing it for a few years now.

Good luck

1) 6-8 small meals a day, high in protein

I don't think this should be your highest priority because it's so difficult to actually do (though a poker pro might have a more flexible schedule so maybe it's easier).

Swimming helped me lose the most weight in my life - 45 mins of breastroke 3 times a week, along with cutting out big portions, snacks and soda and reducing the amount of alcohol (though not by much).

If you keep a food diary then you'll find you're psychologically loathe to write down crappy things - the simple act of record keeping will help you stay on the straight and narrow.

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Originally Posted by biondino

1) 6-8 small meals a day, high in protein

I don't think this should be your highest priority because it's so difficult to actually do (though a poker pro might have a more flexible schedule so maybe it's easier).

Swimming helped me lose the most weight in my life - 45 mins of breastroke 3 times a week, along with cutting out big portions, snacks and soda and reducing the amount of alcohol (though not by much).

If you keep a food diary then you'll find you're psychologically loathe to write down crappy things - the simple act of record keeping will help you stay on the straight and narrow.

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I disagree. Even something as simple as having breakfast, lunch, dinner, a protein bar inbetween the meals and something late at night like cottage cheese for example is actually quite a good schudule and fairly easy to follow.

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Originally Posted by givememyleg

i have high metabolism. i eat alot (mostly bad stuff), am the laziest mfer youll ever meet, and i am 135 soaking wet... it sucks

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I really hate you. Im sure you here it from every guy who's been big all his life but come on. Chicks dig skinny white boys if you can put on a little bulk and with constant lifting (easy) and pouding protein shakes afterwards, you'll be a bitch magnet. Where it would take you a few months, im still a good year away from any great physique.

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Originally Posted by Lukie

in order of importance:

1) 6-8 small meals a day, high in protein. you don't have to be a bodybuilder or anything but be conscious of what goes in your body. obviously mashed potatoes, gravy, and corn is a terrible meal, ditto with the large majority of food that you can get delivered or eat in a restaurant. Sorry if this is what you didn't want to hear. (do as I say and not as I do in this department and you'll be better off. there was a time when I didn't eat japanese food every day....)

2) good lifting routine

3) cardio and other exercise. Move up here and we can ball it up and go snowboarding a few times a week in the winter (after we workout of course). holla

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Id say cardio is more important since its probably the most difficult part of the whole thing.

seriously i am in the same boat as you... i use to be very active and healthy... played basketball and weightlifted 5 days a week, now i haven't done shit for the past 9 months except drink soda and eat out all the time and find myself 28 lbs. heavier w/ a gut... BUT take this advice to heart... go and get urself the Flavorwave Oven Deluxe, i don't know about u but i can't cook worth a shit, w/this there is NO prep work needed except maybe rinsing of vegetables and putting salt & pepper on ur meats and placing it into the Deluxe and whammo ur done man. This includes straight from the freezer Meats, no need to thaw out!! I just got this a month ago and have been eating great. Chicken & asparagus meals, salmon, steaks, roast loins... all u do is take it out of the freezer and insert it into the Deluxe and set the timer and ur good. Everything cooks at the same time, whether it be the meat and veggies or whatever u got, and NO none of the foods will share the flavors while they are cooking. It's also extremely healthy because there is no Oils or whateva needed to cook ur food. This machine cooks, bakes, steams, and roasts all-in-one!!! It is a god-send. Now i buy full chickens, steaks, pork chops, roast pork loins and whatever veggies or else i want and i am not scared now, asking myself do i know how to cook these, it's simple!!! Eat Great & Healthy, *oh just to let u know i cooked a 10lb turkey with this thing it came out marvelous in only 3.5 hrs too! and EXERCISE too, whether it be push ups at home or jog around the block, DO IT u lazy bitch...hahaha!! LATER High-roller

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1) 6-8 small meals a day, high in protein

I don't think this should be your highest priority because it's so difficult to actually do (though a poker pro might have a more flexible schedule so maybe it's easier).

Swimming helped me lose the most weight in my life - 45 mins of breastroke 3 times a week, along with cutting out big portions, snacks and soda and reducing the amount of alcohol (though not by much).

If you keep a food diary then you'll find you're psychologically loathe to write down crappy things - the simple act of record keeping will help you stay on the straight and narrow.

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I disagree. Even something as simple as having breakfast, lunch, dinner, a protein bar inbetween the meals and something late at night like cottage cheese for example is actually quite a good schudule and fairly easy to follow.

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Lukie, eating late at night is just about the worst thing you can do. Your body doesn't get time to use up the energy before bed so the calories stay with you. This should be avoided by eating well during the day so that you're not hungry late at night. Either that or go to bed hungry - you should not eat after 8pm at night.

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Lukie, eating late at night is just about the worst thing you can do. Your body doesn't get time to use up the energy before bed so the calories stay with you.

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everything i have seen and read says that this is a myth

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... all u do is take it out of the freezer and insert it into the Deluxe and set the timer and ur good. This machine cooks, bakes, steams, and roasts all-in-one!!! It is a god-send.

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and if you act now, i will throw in a set of 10 steak knives FREE!!! you cant get a better deal than this folks. For those of you planning to use a credit card, ill throw in the deluxe flavor injector to the first 100 callers.

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... all u do is take it out of the freezer and insert it into the Deluxe and set the timer and ur good. This machine cooks, bakes, steams, and roasts all-in-one!!! It is a god-send.

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and if you act now, i will throw in a set of 10 steak knives FREE!!! you cant get a better deal than this folks. For those of you planning to use a credit card, ill throw in the deluxe flavor injector to the first 100 callers.

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hahaha....fcuk you!! but yea i do sound like a damn info-mercial huh??

run and lift. Both will burn calories and make you feel better. They also force you to eat healthier because if you're not properly fueling your body you will feel like shit.

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Originally Posted by bigred

run and lift. Both will burn calories and make you feel better. They also force you to eat healthier because if you don't your body will pump out huge loads of nasty shit.

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im upto 220 from 185 over the last few months.
I played soccer, rugby other sports almost constantly then got to my finals at uni and quit it all and took up poker.

Fwiw, im addicted to cola and cant quit it, os i just try to drink lots of coffee instead of the soda, eat small meals during the day after a fair large brekafast and run every day around the local park.
Helps that i can fit it all into the grinding schedule which makes me stick to it.

Basic advice here is fine really, dont drink soda a lot, try to drink less beer and keep your meals small while taking a good amount of excercise.
fwiw, you prob need to go and find a sport or something at the gym you like to do that helps a lot. Or else buy a cross trainer for the spare room (just got the g/f to this, def +sixpackev)

For caffeine addiction, get rid of coke, black coffee or sugar free red bulls are great. I think I gained 5 pounds from sugar filled energy drinks last year. I switched to sugar free red bull (10 cal as opposed to 110, some energy drinks have 0 cal vs their 250 cal sugar version) or black coffee. I've also been lifting every day besides rest days and eating with the frame of mine that I'm fueling my muscles so I avoid crappy foods. I weighed 185 at beginning of semster and now weigh 173. I still have to get rid of a mini beer belly but that will mean I need to stop drinking SADFACE.

Maybe cut down on beer and take shots? y/n?

hear hear... a couple shots for the "president"...

P.S- 173?? man ya are some puny little guys, anybody on hear thats 210+ but not a fatty, sorry Gabe!!

Your posts sound familiar as I used to be very active in sports during college, but after college, time became a premium and I didn't have time to wait for a basketball pickup game, my metabolism slowed, and I gained weight. A friend of mine who owns a gym gave me some tips that were really helpful and I still use them today:

1. He was low carb before it became popular. Watch your glycemic (sp?) index, carbs in the morning, proteins at night.
2. Smaller meals more frequently to keep up your metabolism.
3. Junk night. Sounds silly but works. Once a week after 3 pm, I don't care what I eat. Pizza, beer, sugar, snacks, whatever. The rest of the week is strict low sugar diet. This helps to: (1) lower your "fat set point", which if you gorge your body once in a while it will retain less fat; (2) you will feel like you are not cheating yourself; and (3) once you blow your insulin levels for the day, you really won't recover until the next day anyway. At first, you will crave sugar like a junkie, but after a while, your body will adjust, you will be more even during the day without sugar crashes and you won't crave sugars.
4. Drink lots of water. Your body does not know you have water available to you most of the time on demand. If you drink more, you will retain less.
5. Exercise; a combination of weight lifting AND aerobic activity has been proven to be the best for weight loss and keeping it off. It can also remove the effects of bad eating habits.
6. MOST IMPORTANT- Buy yourself a heart monitor. If you are not doing cardio within your target heart rate A MINIMUM of 30 mins 3 times a week, you are wasting your time. They are only about $40 at most sporting goods stores and you will be amazed at how little exercise it really takes to be in your range. At first, I could hit it by a quick walk, but after a year and a half, I was up to regular jogging (which I had hated in the past) and was able to complete run/walking a marathon within my target heart rate range, which would not have been possible without it. To get your target heart rate subtract your age from 220, then multiply the result by 60% for your low range, 70% for your high range.
7. Drink red wine daily. 1-2 glasses will increase your circulation, red wine (not white) also has beneficial effects on your insulin levels. A good byproduct is it will also help you sleep.

Good Luck!

Lots of great advice. But to keep it simple to start, cut the carbs, alot. No bread, no pasta, no potatoes, no rice and most important no sugar. Learn what they are, where they are and eat only enough carbs to maintain energy levels. usually 100 g or less early in the day over two or three meals. I usually recommend dropping them completely on a weight loss diet. But alot of people have problems with concentration and fatigue for a week or two while adjusting so don't eliminate them all together or your game will suffer.

Basically, Just eat anything you can cook on a george forman grill and vegetables( Potatoes and corn excluded). Eat high protien. That's meat, eggs, cotttage cheese, low fat cheese and lots of veggies. If you concentrate on the protien you won't have room for carbs. 8 meals a day is the best thing you can do. You will be hard pressed to eat at all and you wont get cravings for junk. If you drink pop, diet or regulaar, stop. If you have limited time to exercise, ift weights instead of cardio, it'll maintian muscle mass while eating less, and even burn more calories than cardio in less time.

Just set it... and... forget it!

bigred: the alcohol is where the calories come from. Shot of 80 proof alcohol ~100 calories. A tasty Sam Adams: 135 calories. I'll go with the flavor and enjoyability and worry about a whopping 0.7% of my daily caloric intake later.

yea gabe. Wild turkey on the rocks is baller.

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3. Junk night. Sounds silly but works. Once a week after 3 pm, I don't care what I eat. Pizza, beer, sugar, snacks, whatever. The rest of the week is strict low sugar diet. This helps to: (1) lower your "fat set point", which if you gorge your body once in a while it will retain less fat; (2) you will feel like you are not cheating yourself; and (3) once you blow your insulin levels for the day, you really won't recover until the next day anyway. At first, you will crave sugar like a junkie, but after a while, your body will adjust, you will be more even during the day without sugar crashes and you won't crave sugars.

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Don't underestimate the power of this. It also kicks the metabolism in gear. It's mentally better to know that you can have this or that on Saturday or at that party na dnot stress the rest of the week. A cheat day or meal is necassary for the long term plan. Nobody can go on eating super clean endlessly without knowing when or where there next pizza, ice cream or beer fix is comming.

How tall are you, gabe?

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yea gabe. Wild turkey on the rocks is baller.

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Um or Knob Creek. The Turk is rot gut, but it'll put hair on your chest.

To affirm what others have said.
Eat more protein. Egg whites, chicken, low-fat milk, lean beef, pork, cheeses, etc.
Eat at least 6 smaller meals per day.
Eat only protein starting 3 hours before bedtime.
Learn the difference and eat good carbs (complex) not bad carbs (simple).
Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Warpe

How tall are you, gabe?

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Another thought, randomizing your caloric daily intake is also good. If you eat 1.5k every day, your body adjust to it and it becomes less effective.

You need to find your "ideal" intake. You want to vary how much you eat, so 80% one day, 100% the next, then 90%. If you can think of 6 "small meals", then once a week just eat 4, maybe twice a week eat 5. Being in school helped me randomize it because I would be busier some days with less time to eat.

Pretty soon we'll be able to make that "Stud ballers of FTR" calender.

I'm 32, and when I went to college back in '93 I weighed 155. In about a couple of years I weighed 230. What happened? Well, it was beer, pizza, and Taco Bell. But it was also me working out and eating all of that workout crap because at the time before I weighed 230 I wanted to gain wait so guess what I took, weight gainer. So stupid.

I have gone through all of the yoyo diets. The Atkins works for removing weight fast but when you deviate from it or come off of it the weight comes back. The high protein diets that everyone is recommending will shed the pounds but it is not a sustainable lifestyle. I would suggest that you eat 5-6 small meals a day and ingest clean protein along with whole grains. You need carbs and whole grains take longer to digest which will make you feel fuller. Whole grain will also help prevent heart disease, so keep that in mind. Stay away from the white starchy carbs. They will pack the weight on. The 5-6 meals a day will increase your metabolism.

Drink as much water per day as possible. You will piss every 30 min. but you will lose weight. Coffee is ok but not in large amounts because it messes with your glycemic levels. Try green tea instead. Green tea has been shown to help reduce weight and it’s loaded with antioxidants.

The beer is the main culprit. You need to reduce the amount of days throughout the week that you drink. I visited family over Thanksgiving and drank 4 nights out of the week and when we came back home I gained almost 10 pounds. The carbs and the calories is what causes the weight gain. Cut back, find a healthier substitute to get wasted, or quit.

random stuff:
-im already good at drinking lots of water. its pretty much the only non alcoholic drink i ever have.

-i eat bread/potatoes/rice alot. and beer. thats alot of carbs.

-i need to buy a treadmill or something because i find myself never having time to exercise. i will be playing on a soccer team on the spring so that might help. giving up a drinking tonight to hang out at the gym is a good idea. maybe i can get all my friends do this with me.

-i find myself eating late at night alot. i know this is bad, but how bad? i think its because there are no places that deliver breakfast (lol).

-so you guys are outlining what i shouldnt be eating, but what about some specific stuff that maybe you guys eat thats really healthy?

Gabe, my first response is your too young to worry about weight.
But otherwise I'd find creative ways to play poker and make it a work out.
This is going to sound really stupid but how bought put a laptop onto a treadmill and play and walk at the same time!

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Gabe, my first response is your too young to worry about weight.

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This may be a joke, but it's completely wrong.

Since he's young the weight will come off quickly, developing a healthy lifestyle will keep it off.

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Gabe, my first response is your too young to worry about weight.

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This may be a joke, but it's completely wrong.

Since he's young the weight will come off quickly, developing a healthy lifestyle will keep it off.

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Trust me, the old adage is true. It's easier to take it off when you're young than when you get older.

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For caffeine addiction, get rid of coke, black coffee or sugar free red bulls are great. I think I gained 5 pounds from sugar filled energy drinks last year. I switched to sugar free red bull (10 cal as opposed to 110, some energy drinks have 0 cal vs their 250 cal sugar version) or black coffee. I've also been lifting every day besides rest days and eating with the frame of mine that I'm fueling my muscles so I avoid crappy foods. I weighed 185 at beginning of semster and now weigh 173. I still have to get rid of a mini beer belly but that will mean I need to stop drinking SADFACE.

Maybe cut down on beer and take shots? y/n?

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if i didnt absolutly abhore sugar free drinks i would have been here already :(

Good advice i just cant follow

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i have high metabolism. i eat alot (mostly bad stuff), am the laziest mfer youll ever meet, and i am 135 soaking wet... it sucks

but yeah one of the biggest thing is replacing pop with water or just replacing chocolate/other bad snacks with fruit or something. just little things like that can pwn fat.

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I'm lazier than you and eat more than you and weigh less than you... 6ft tall 18 years old... 8 1/2 stone... bout 120 pounds i think? It is great being able to eat junk all day and not put weight on.

Gl with the diet Gabe, just gotta commit to it.

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i have high metabolism. i eat alot (mostly bad stuff), am the laziest mfer youll ever meet, and i am 135 soaking wet... it sucks

but yeah one of the biggest thing is replacing pop with water or just replacing chocolate/other bad snacks with fruit or something. just little things like that can pwn fat.

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I'm lazier than you and eat more than you and weigh less than you... 6ft tall 18 years old... 8 1/2 stone... bout 120 pounds i think? It is great being able to eat junk all day and not put weight on.

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Own it you dirty, good for nothing, possibly racist, doll collecting, bastard.

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i have high metabolism. i eat alot (mostly bad stuff), am the laziest mfer youll ever meet, and i am 135 soaking wet... it sucks

but yeah one of the biggest thing is replacing pop with water or just replacing chocolate/other bad snacks with fruit or something. just little things like that can pwn fat.

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I'm lazier than you and eat more than you and weigh less than you... 6ft tall 18 years old... 8 1/2 stone... bout 120 pounds i think? It is great being able to eat junk all day and not put weight on.

Gl with the diet Gabe, just gotta commit to it.

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skinny west yorkshire geek. :wink:

i wish i wasnt 185 and 5;7 and look like i ate all the gym dumb bells(sp) :(

meh - I beat u all. I'm old and skinny. 6'4 180ish. I am just so lazy that I don't bother eating.

i would kill to weigh what i did when i started college.

6'-4", 230 lbs of solid muscle. i was always one of the biggest kids in my HS, but looking back at my senior pics, i looked like i was starving.

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i have high metabolism. i eat alot (mostly bad stuff), am the laziest mfer youll ever meet, and i am 135 soaking wet... it sucks

but yeah one of the biggest thing is replacing pop with water or just replacing chocolate/other bad snacks with fruit or something. just little things like that can pwn fat.

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I'm lazier than you and eat more than you and weigh less than you... 6ft tall 18 years old... 8 1/2 stone... bout 120 pounds i think? It is great being able to eat junk all day and not put weight on.

Gl with the diet Gabe, just gotta commit to it.

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Hey squeek, get me a beer.

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random stuff:
-im already good at drinking lots of water. its pretty much the only non alcoholic drink i ever have.

-i eat bread/potatoes/rice alot. and beer. thats alot of carbs.

-i need to buy a treadmill or something because i find myself never having time to exercise. i will be playing on a soccer team on the spring so that might help. giving up a drinking tonight to hang out at the gym is a good idea. maybe i can get all my friends do this with me.

-i find myself eating late at night alot. i know this is bad, but how bad? i think its because there are no places that deliver breakfast (lol).

-so you guys are outlining what i shouldnt be eating, but what about some specific stuff that maybe you guys eat thats really healthy?

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Good Carbs:
Oats
Whole wheat (no high fructose corn syrup, breads are filled with it)
Yams- Sweet potatoes
Yuca (Cassava)
Malanga
Wild Rice
Brown Rice (not instant)
70% or up Cacao chocolate
Rye Bread
Pumpernickel Bread
Buckwheat
Lowfat meats
Dairy (lowfat; lowfat cottage cheese is premium protein)

(By itself between meals but not with a meal and the fructose is fine, good for a healty sugar fix even if 100% juice since the body digests fructose differently than sucrose)
Apples
Oranges

You guys are all jealous, amirite?

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i have high metabolism. i eat alot (mostly bad stuff), am the laziest mfer youll ever meet, and i am 135 soaking wet... it sucks

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I really hate you. Im sure you here it from every guy who's been big all his life but come on. Chicks dig skinny white boys if you can put on a little bulk and with constant lifting (easy) and pouding protein shakes afterwards, you'll be a bitch magnet. Where it would take you a few months, im still a good year away from any great physique.

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honestly, it's harder to put on muscle (without putting on an overabundance of fat) then it is to lose fat. I know many will disagree, and it's been drilled into your head that it's near impossible to shed body-fat but if you know what you are doing then it can really be done at will.

read: www.bodybuilding.com

disclaimer so I don't get overly flamed: I havn't been there in years, but I really learned a ton about proper nutrition, lifting, etc, when I used to. I've never used roids and havn't used any supplements in about 3 years (I should change this) and have a terrible diet compared to what I used to a few years ago (although much better then you're average person). I don't claim to have freakish genetics, I havn't worked out for longer then an hour in a day since I first started lifting, but I've been at the gym consistently 3-4 times a week, 50 or so weeks out of the year, I eat decent, I try to get a decent amount of sleep, etc. I don't even live that active of a lifestyle. I also havn't done any cardio in about 5 years.

summary: eat good, lift right, and you'll be fine.

lukie you are focusing too much on bodybuilding and lifting and shit, thats not what this thread is about IDIOT

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in order of importance:

1) 6-8 small meals a day, high in protein. you don't have to be a bodybuilder or anything but be conscious of what goes in your body. obviously mashed potatoes, gravy, and corn is a terrible meal, ditto with the large majority of food that you can get delivered or eat in a restaurant. Sorry if this is what you didn't want to hear. (do as I say and not as I do in this department and you'll be better off. there was a time when I didn't eat japanese food every day....)

2) good lifting routine

3) cardio and other exercise. Move up here and we can ball it up and go snowboarding a few times a week in the winter (after we workout of course). holla

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Id say cardio is more important since its probably the most difficult part of the whole thing.

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meh, I'd agree that it's the least desirable thing to do, and I'm not trying to downplay it's significance for somebody that needs to drop a lot of body fat or is trying to get shredded for a competition or something. Even then, the other two take precedence. I honestly believe that your average person doesn't really need to do much cardio to be in good, even great shape. If you're reasonably active, you could easily get by doing like 1x20 minute session a week. I havn't done any cardio in like 5 years. I'm not trying to brag, it's just that I know many people who are in great shape that eat their protein and lift while never doing any cardio, while you can go into any gym and find the cardio warriors that are there for 6 days a week for an hour, yet never see any results. It is not a coincidence, trust me.

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1) 6-8 small meals a day, high in protein

I don't think this should be your highest priority because it's so difficult to actually do (though a poker pro might have a more flexible schedule so maybe it's easier).

Swimming helped me lose the most weight in my life - 45 mins of breastroke 3 times a week, along with cutting out big portions, snacks and soda and reducing the amount of alcohol (though not by much).

If you keep a food diary then you'll find you're psychologically loathe to write down crappy things - the simple act of record keeping will help you stay on the straight and narrow.

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I disagree. Even something as simple as having breakfast, lunch, dinner, a protein bar inbetween the meals and something late at night like cottage cheese for example is actually quite a good schudule and fairly easy to follow.

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Lukie, eating late at night is just about the worst thing you can do. Your body doesn't get time to use up the energy before bed so the calories stay with you. This should be avoided by eating well during the day so that you're not hungry late at night. Either that or go to bed hungry - you should not eat after 8pm at night.

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ugh, you should never be hungry. The only time that it's ok for your body to be hungry is when you first wake up (and you should always eat a good breakfast). I am being 100% serious. The sensation of 'hunger' is the result of either the result of not having enough fluids in your body (*ahem*, you should drink lots of water, this is somewhat basic but it goes hand-in-hand with diet and I almost forget to include it that it's almost a given--very important), or in having a poor diet really. If you eat anywhere close to 'ideally' with the 6+ meals a day, high in protein and drink lots of water, you should literally almost never be hungry.

Eating near bedtime is actually somewhat of a requirement in my opinion. Obviously going down to taco bell isn't acceptable if you want to get in good shape. An hour or so before bed, a bowl of cottage cheese, or something like a chicken breast and some broccoli, or a something comparable is actually quite excellent for you. A competitive bodybuilder often won't eat for hours before bed during a cutup phase only, but they are also using a ridiculous amount of supplements (and often roids) that prevent, or slow down the catabolizing of muscles. I would agree that you really should watch the carbs at night, though, if that means anything.

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lukie you are focusing too much on bodybuilding and lifting and shit, thats not what this thread is about IDIOT

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sorry, i missed this. please disregard all of my posts. feel free to delete them if you'd like.

best of luck to you MAN

It never ceases to amaze me that quite literally nobody has ever listened to me on this. It's worse then poker. I give up-- nobody ever listens

Who's the guy you're rubbing up on huh? Cheating on me bitch? I will stab you.

I haven't read all replies but I guarantee you will see a difference if you start running regularly and trying not to eat anything that contains margarine, shortening, high fructose corn syrup, or hydrogenated oil (fully or partially).

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the only exercise i get is walking around town.

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you say you don't have time to exercise
but
you could make the time
if you are serious about this
i feel like you could squeeze it in somewhere between FIFA sessions and trips to Shady Grady for beer and combos
i'm going to try to workout a lot over winter break
you are always welcome to join me
we could talk about poker

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It never ceases to amaze me that quite literally nobody has ever listened to me on this. It's worse then poker. I give up-- nobody ever listens

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way to solicit yourself as a 'hot bod'
probably the lamest post ever

how many carbs are in a gram of meth yo?