Renton (Fnord and Trip) vs Rondavu

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12-08-2006, 05:18 PM
Renton

Renton (Fnord and Trip) vs Rondavu

I just sat a few hands ago.

Notes on rondavu: Loose player, but not really a lagg. More like a tagg who limps a lot of stuff. I actually have a greater preflop raising range than him. He plays draws pretty aggressively and generally plays tag-like whenever its the turn or the river.

PokerStars Game #7355489198: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/12/08 - 16:45:30 (ET)
Table 'Owa' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: prostowin ($208.95 in chips)
Seat 3: DoubleJJ770 ($200.95 in chips)
Seat 4: cjoli95 ($57.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Rondavu ($161.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Renton555 ($99.50 in chips)
Rondavu: posts small blind $0.50
Renton555: posts big blind $1

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Renton555 [9c Qs]

prostowin: folds
DoubleJJ770: folds
cjoli95: folds
Rondavu: calls $0.50
Renton555: raises $3 to $4
Rondavu: calls $3

*** FLOP *** [5s Js 6h]

Rondavu: checks
Renton555: bets $5
jonnypppp joins the table at seat #1
Rondavu: calls $5

*** TURN *** [5s Js 6h] [Ts]

Rondavu: checks
Renton555: bets $12
Rondavu: calls $12

*** RIVER *** [5s Js 6h Ts] [6c]

Rondavu: bets $12
Renton555: raises $36 to $48
12-08-2006, 05:40 PM
Galapogos

I think you're smoked bro. What are you trying to rep with your hand? Looks like a flush draw or overpair on the flop.

He's obviously not trying to steal the pot with that weak $12 bet on the river, I think he's just throwing a bet bet out there that you'd have to call with even a weak pair on that board. I think you were called with either the nut flush or a full house.
12-08-2006, 05:40 PM
IowaSkinsFan

It seems like a weak hand like a Jx Block betting but being an FTR guy i'm afraid he's 3rd leveling you.
12-08-2006, 05:44 PM
Galapogos

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

It seems like a weak hand like a Jx Block betting but being an FTR guy i'm afraid he's 3rd leveling you.

I don't think $12 into a $40+ pot counts as a blocking bet. Especially against someone who has been as aggressive the entire hand as Renton has.
12-08-2006, 05:48 PM
Warpe

It looks like a bet meant to induce a raise/bluff. I wouldn't be surprised if Rond reraised here.
12-08-2006, 05:51 PM
Renton

i think its important to note that rondavu calls the flop and the turn VERY lightly.
12-08-2006, 05:51 PM
Renton

also its virtually impossible to put him on a flush, so the rep value there is apparent
12-08-2006, 06:18 PM
benny999

you seem to rep the nut flush. maybe a set/boat. the turn and river bet sizes seem a little weird to me though (why not more on turn and push river?).

anyways the $12 river bet looks suspicious. maybe rondavu has As6x, or 65, and wants you to raise. I just wouldn't expect a transparently weak bet from him without something more to it than planning to fold to a raise.
12-08-2006, 06:32 PM
Warpe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

also its virtually impossible to put him on a flush, so the rep value there is apparent

c/c, c/c? It's passive but it's not unheard of. Rondavu just might take that line with a flush against you.
12-08-2006, 06:37 PM
nutsinho

ive been bluff-raising rivers with pretty high frequency lately but I wouldnt here because frankly, it would look like a bluff
12-08-2006, 06:42 PM
lolzzz_321

side note:rondavu would not get in any pots with me when we played :::((((
12-08-2006, 07:23 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triptan3s

side note:rondavu would not get in any pots with me when we played :::((((

We're mixing it up right now.
12-08-2006, 07:26 PM
lolzzz_321

wow
on
my way
12-08-2006, 07:44 PM
Fnord

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Fnord ($153.10)
CO ($220.35)
Button ($121.25)
SB ($103.15)
BB ($117.80)
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ ($141.70)

Preflop: Fnord is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ raises to $4, Fnord calls $4, 4 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Rondavu bets $6, Fnord raises to $18, Rondavu raises to $38, Fnord raises to $149.1, Rondavu calls $99.70 (All-In).

Turn: ($296.30) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($296.30) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $296.30

Results in white below:
Rondavu has 9c 9s (full house, nines full of aces).
Fnord has Qd Ac (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Rondavu wins $284.90. Fnord wins $11.40.
12-08-2006, 07:48 PM
lolzzz_321

PokerStars Game #7357886097: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/12/08 - 19:43:04 (ET)
Table 'Antielus IV' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: lancer2k2 ($132.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Triptanes ($100 in chips)
Seat 3: Fnord ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: Rondavu ($167.75 in chips)
Seat 5: SOSHHSB ($171.40 in chips)
Seat 6: drewlo12 ($199.25 in chips)
drewlo12: posts small blind $0.50
Rondavu said, "nic fold"
lancer2k2: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Triptanes [Th Qd]
Triptanes: raises $3.40 to $4.40
HenryFnord: folds
Rondavu said, "555?"
Rondavu: calls $4.40
SOSHHSB: folds
drewlo12: folds
lancer2k2: raises $7.60 to $12
Triptanes: calls $7.60
Rondavu: calls $7.60
*** FLOP *** [9c Ks Tc]
lancer2k2: bets $23
Triptanes: raises $23 to $46
Rondavu: folds
Rondavu said, "cards are live"
lancer2k2: raises $74.75 to $120.75 and is all-in
Triptanes: calls $42 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9c Ks Tc] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [9c Ks Tc Jc] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lancer2k2: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Triptanes: shows [Th Qd] (a straight, Nine to King)
Triptanes collected $209.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $212.50 | Rake $3
Board [9c Ks Tc Jc Kh]
Seat 1: lancer2k2 (big blind) showed [Ah Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 2: Triptanes showed [Th Qd] and won ($209.50) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 3: HenryFnord folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Rondavu folded on the Flop
Seat 5: SOSHHSB (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: drewlo12 (small blind) folded before Flop

:shipitcrucial:
12-08-2006, 07:56 PM
Fnord

Fnord stikes back!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($107.45)
SB ($77.55)
BB ($81.15)
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ ($108.10)
MP ($84.15)
Fnord ($107.55)

Preflop: Fnord is CO with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ raises to $4, 1 fold, Fnord calls $4, 3 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Rondavu bets $7, Fnord raises to $21, Rondavu raises to $104.1, Fnord calls $82.55 (All-In).

Turn: ($217.15) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($217.15) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $217.15

Results in white below:
Rondavu has Ac Kc (one pair, kings).
Fnord has 8s 6s (straight, nine high).
Outcome: Fnord wins $216.60. Rondavu wins $0.54.
12-08-2006, 08:08 PM
lolzzz_321

fnord hit and ran me
12-08-2006, 08:09 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triptan3s

fnord hit and ran me

Dinner time, shutting down all my tables. Have fun boys.

Rondavu switches gears well.
12-08-2006, 08:10 PM
lolzzz_321

lol i own rondavu
12-08-2006, 10:06 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

i think its important to note that rondavu calls the flop and the turn VERY lightly.

Either he was playing you differently or your reads are way off.
12-09-2006, 12:53 AM
Jager

I found Rondavu to be fairly tough although with 700 hands against we've never battled post flop HU he is one of the few Tag type players at 100nl that is a winning player in my database.
12-09-2006, 12:55 AM
Renton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

i think its important to note that rondavu calls the flop and the turn VERY lightly.

Either he was playing you differently or your reads are way off.

its blindvblind, light calling is std
12-09-2006, 01:54 AM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

we've never battled post flop HU.

You're missing out on a lot of fun ;-)
12-09-2006, 02:21 AM
Kits

Man I would have loved to watch this table. Stupid southern hemisphere time zone!
12-09-2006, 06:34 AM
Miffed22001

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Fnord ($153.10)
CO ($220.35)
Button ($121.25)
SB ($103.15)
BB ($117.80)
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ ($141.70)

Preflop: Fnord is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ raises to $4, Fnord calls $4, 4 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Rondavu bets $6, Fnord raises to $18, Rondavu raises to $38, Fnord raises to $149.1, Rondavu calls $99.70 (All-In).

Turn: ($296.30) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($296.30) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $296.30

Results in white below:
Rondavu has 9c 9s (full house, nines full of aces).
Fnord has Qd Ac (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Rondavu wins $284.90. Fnord wins $11.40.

lol.
Qwned?
12-09-2006, 06:36 AM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

lol.
Qwned?

Given what you know about both players, I don't think it's that terrible of a spot to get stacked. Against a lot of players, I like calling the flop 3-bet. Against Rondavu I think shoving is a better play.

Anyway, I more than made-up the difference in winning just about every smaller pot we got into. I think that aggression got him to fight back so hard with AK.
12-09-2006, 06:48 AM
Miffed22001

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

lol.
Qwned?

Given what you know about both players, I don't think it's that terrible of a spot to get stacked. Against a lot of players, I like calling the flop 3-bet. Against Rondavu I think shoving is a better play.

Anyway, I more than made-up the difference in winning just about every smaller pot we got into. I think that aggression got him to fight back so hard with AK.

tottaly agreed. I dont quite think i expected to see 99 here, more like some sort of ace, probably weaker.
12-09-2006, 08:08 AM
lolzzz_321

lol i haven't folded top pair to an FTRer in 3 years
12-09-2006, 08:18 AM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triptan3s

lol i haven't folded top pair to an FTRer in 3 years

You certainly didn't start last evening. LoL!

check/call
check/call
check/call

Makes it a real bitch to get your stack.
12-10-2006, 12:13 AM
givememyleg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triptan3s

lol i haven't folded top pair to an FTRer in 3 years

lolz