I never know what to do here..?

GAME #479529974: Texas Hold'em NL $1/$2 2007-01-30 19:14:58
Table Khenchela
Seat 1: JL37 ($197.00 in chips)
Seat 3: martev ($342.43 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: Ouchie18 ($457.84 in chips)
Seat 6: WireySpinell ($229.15 in chips)
Seat 8: jackripperr ($278.10 in chips)
Seat 10: Pladon ($153.50 in chips)
Ouchie18: Post SB $1.00
WireySpinell: Post BB $2.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JL37 J:diamond: A:spade:
jackripperr: Fold
Pladon: Fold
JL37: Raise $7.00
martev: Call $7.00
Ouchie18: Fold
WireySpinell: Fold
*** FLOP *** T:diamond: Q:spade: 3:heart:
JL37: Bet $14.00
martev: Raise $28.00
JL37: Call $14.00
*** TURN *** 3:spade:
JL37: Check
martev: Bet $20.00
JL37: ?????

ugh, probably fold, but if he's one of those habitual minreraisers threebet the flop sometimes.

Anyone else have any advice for this hand?

I found myself in a similar situation about 3 times tonight...
I have AJ/AQ, flop a gutshot, and get Min-raised by a donkey.
I hate folding here, but I also hate 3betting because that will usually end up with half my stack in the middle.

I guess it's just one of those "it depends" situations right?
...ugh I just hate folding to 1/4 pot bets on the turn.

I'd call and bet any A or Q river pretty hard.

Back when I played a more "brutal aggression style" I would typically 3-bet these flops pretty hard. It worked out ok but I don't think it's really necessary.

When you do have a hand, call the flop then c/raise the turn.

Also I'd c-bet significantly less vs donkeys here. Check-calling this flop isn't as bad as it might seem (since this flop hits/gives draws to lots of hands they call with preflop).

fold

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Originally Posted by Harry

fold

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Flop or turn?

Turn. Flop is fine, though I probably dont bet full pot just 3/4ths.

yeah, betting full pot is usually a sign of weakness, especially with no draws out there.

Well, pot is 17 with the blinds. So 3/4ths is 12 instead of 14. Not a huge difference but it can matter on later rounds more than most think.

Fold the turn. Betting how much you bet on flop is just preference. Just remember to remain somewhat consistent.

I always bet $14 into $17, and $12 into $15...I feel $12 into $17 is too weak.
But either way I am very consistent with my cbets, so size isnt important....

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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

yeah, betting full pot is usually a sign of weakness, especially with no draws out there.

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I agree, that is why I bet the full pot when I flop a flush or something :D