Very difficult spot and a very retarded bluff

Opponent was a bit stupid, that's all I've got for reads.

GAME #515848828: Texas Hold'em NL $0.10/$0.20 31-Mar-2007 22:45:57
Table Bourbon
Seat 1: Kurt400 ($17.42 in chips)
Seat 3: Resistance ($26.28 in chips)
Seat 5: mamyD ($2.90 in chips)
Seat 6: COOLMFB ($18.65 in chips)
Seat 8: bioponic2 ($20.28 in chips) DEALER
Kurt400: Post SB $0.10
Resistance: Post BB $0.20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Resistance [:8d: :6d:]
1 fold
COOLMFB: Call $0.20
1 fold
Kurt400: Call $0.10
Resistance: Check
*** FLOP *** [:9s: :4s: :7d:]
Kurt400: Check
Resistance: Bet $0.60
COOLMFB: Call $0.60
Kurt400: Fold
*** TURN *** [:9d:]
Resistance: Bet $1.40
COOLMFB: Raise $2.80
Resistance: Call $1.40
*** RIVER *** [:5h:]
Resistance: Check
COOLMFB: Bet $2.80
Raises or calls?

I find this spot extremely difficult, because:

a) If I raise, I'll be getting something like 4:1 if he pushes so I have to call.
b) His bet on the river is so weak, I think it may not be getting enough value out of my fairly strong hand.
c) I don't like the idea of being passive and cally just because the board has paired.
d) I don't know whether raising would get 999 to stack off or not.

What to do?



344: Texas Hold'em NL $0.10/$0.20 01-Apr-2007 02:42:04
Table Brookston
Seat 1: mocietto81 ($13.44 in chips)
Seat 3: Resistance ($19.30 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: AAAASSSS2 ($40.30 in chips)
Seat 6: imsamiam ($19.52 in chips)
Seat 8: litti68 ($25.40 in chips)
Seat 10: Wersel ($3.95 in chips)
AAAASSSS2: Post SB $0.10
imsamiam: Post BB $0.20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Resistance [:Jd: :8c:]
litti68: Raise $0.40
2 folds
Resistance: Call $0.40
AAAASSSS2: Raise $1.50
imsamiam: Call $1.40
litti68: Call $1.20
Resistance: Call $1.20
*** FLOP *** [:Ts: :3d: :9s:]
AAAASSSS2: Bet $2.60
imsamiam: Call $2.60
litti68: Fold
Resistance: Call $2.60
*** TURN *** [:Th:]
AAAASSSS2: Check
imsamiam: Check
Resistance: Check
*** RIVER *** [:3h:]
AAAASSSS2: Check
imsamiam: Check
Resistance: Bet $10.00

AAAAAAASSSSSS2 was a nit who liked to cbet flops then shut down if he didn't have anything by the turn, imsamiam was someone who liked chasing unlikely draws.

I know that anyone with reasonable hand-reading skills would pick off this bluff with K high, but I just didn't give my opponents enough credit to tear apart my line and read me. I put AAAAAAAAASSSSSSS2 on a scared JJ, and I figured imsamiam for some random 76 type shite.. How dumb was this bluff?

Why no replies? Are my reads too long-winded or something?

Hand 1 raise. If you're not going for big value on this river you might as well fold turn as you've only got two clean outs. I'd make it 8-ish and watch him call/shove 9x or some other junk much more often than a set.

Hand 2 fold preflop twice. I also like a turn bet better than a river bet.

Quote:

---

Why no replies? Are my reads too long-winded or something?

---

It's the smell. That or I don't like posts with more than one hand, especially if there is no connection between the concepts involved. Just a friendly tip :).

id shove hand 1 for value and just check behind on 2 because i think you get called too much since so many draws missed.

I think I'd just bet the river in hand 1 more often than checking and yeah I don't like pf in hand 2.

hand #1 - raise river instead of checking, reraise if reraised
hand #2 - fold preflop, check river and give up, if you don't raise the turn your river bet is getting called most of the time here. I don't like bluffing multiway pots on river after showing no strength.