How do I play this turn?

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08-21-2007, 01:51 PM
Andypandy

How do I play this turn?

Don't know much about the button, but from the orbits I have seen he seems LAGGY. Haven't tangled with him previously.

** Game ID 812911860 starting - 2007-08-19 21:16:31
** Adler [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- wandreas sitting in seat 2 with $103.00
- Hero sitting in seat 3 with $99.00
- Infiltrate sitting in seat 4 with $91.75
- bully199 sitting in seat 5 with $53.14
- mrpipespb sitting in seat 6 with $107.71 [Dealer]

wandreas posted the small blind - $0.50
Hero posted the big blind - $1.00
** Dealing card to Hero: Jack of Hearts, Jack of Clubs
Infiltrate folded
bully199 called - $1.00
mrpipespb raised - $4.00
wandreas folded
Hero raised - $13.00
bully199 folded
mrpipespb called - $13.00

** Dealing the flop: 6 of Diamonds, 2 of Hearts, 7 of Diamonds
Hero bet - $20.00
mrpipespb called - $20.00

** Dealing the turn: Queen of Spades
Hero ??????
08-21-2007, 02:45 PM
sauce123

bet/
call
this post made on iPhone so sick
08-21-2007, 03:01 PM
locks1018

Unless the player has QQ or AQ with the flush draw, the turn doesn't change much. Also if he had A/x with the flush draw. he would've mae his move on the flop IMO. i would go ahead and bet the turn here as well. The queen isn't as big of a scare card as it may appear.
08-21-2007, 04:59 PM
minSim

I don't get the bet/call.
I would say bet/fold because of TT, 99 and the draws, but I don't see them raising turn.

I also would think 67, QJ and QT are in villains range, at least sometimes.
08-21-2007, 06:45 PM
will641

unless this guy is a total retard why would he call a 3 bet from a blind with 67, Q10 or QJ? I would think it would be more likely he'd have a set there, maybe with 6's or 7's
08-21-2007, 10:01 PM
|~|ypermegachi

Quote:

Originally Posted by sauce123

this post made on iPhone so sick

haha. nh. POTD!
08-22-2007, 01:34 AM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by minSim

I don't get the bet/call.

I don't either. I'm not sure why a raise would make us feel like we have the best hand.
08-22-2007, 01:58 AM
EzDuzIt

well the villans range here is mostly flush draws and PPs 1010 and under. hes laggy too so unless he somehow did this with qq, aq, or slowplayed a set most of his range will be a draw or retarded stuff with like 88, 99. so if he pushes you should be ahead and there will be lots of money in the pot already.
08-22-2007, 02:26 AM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by EzDuzIt

hes laggy too

i don't think we should put a ton of faith into that based on what hero said about him. if he were to push then that would be the classic monster line of call flop/raise turn. also, why would he wait til the turn to raise/push a draw?
08-22-2007, 03:04 AM
EzDuzIt

because people do stupid shit.

basically any hand villan played like this then pushed over with he probably played badly.
08-22-2007, 04:39 AM
minSim

Quote:

Originally Posted by will641

unless this guy is a total retard why would he call a 3 bet from a blind with 67, Q10 or QJ? I would think it would be more likely he'd have a set there, maybe with 6's or 7's

Because he "seems laggy", the 3-bet isn't that big, he has position, he raised a limper from CO and got 3-bet so could be a sqeeuze by hero.
08-22-2007, 10:34 AM
Thee One

Check/call the turn. Value bet any non A/K/Diamond river. Control the pot. Your hand has showdown value, don't turn it into a bluff.
08-22-2007, 01:00 PM
larsmars

c/r all in
08-22-2007, 03:16 PM
Andypandy

Well i bet out about 2/3-pot, he pushed over me and I had to call because of the size of the pot/I could be ahead. He had non-diamond AQ. GG.
08-22-2007, 03:52 PM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by EzDuzIt

because people do stupid shit.

lol yes but we can't make a certain play bc someone sometime did something stupid in a similar spot.

EDIT: that was a lot of "s" words

Quote:

Originally Posted by larsmars

c/r all in

joke?
08-22-2007, 04:00 PM
Thee One

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andypandy

Well i bet out about 2/3-pot, he pushed over me and I had to call because of the size of the pot/I could be ahead. He had non-diamond AQ. GG.

*&#^@&@ Jacks! :cry:
08-22-2007, 04:32 PM
larsmars

martin; t's a stack-a-donk, not a joke. Or a "get-stacked-by-donk" in this case.
08-22-2007, 04:35 PM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by larsmars

martin; t's a stack-a-donk, not a joke. Or a "get-stacked-by-donk" in this case.

ya i'm aware of the line. i'm not a big fan of it usually but it just seemed especially bad to me here.
08-22-2007, 05:00 PM
Numbr2intheWorld

Quote:

Originally Posted by will641

unless this guy is a total retard why would he call a 3 bet from a blind with 67, Q10 or QJ? I would think it would be more likely he'd have a set there, maybe with 6's or 7's

You'd be surprised at what people call 3-bets with... And at 100NL you'll usually see a set, a draw, or other strong hands raise the flop. I think we can take QJ,QT,KQ, even AQ (well he had it, which is surprising) out of his range on the turn because he called the cont bet. Against a pretty aggro player i like a c/r all in actually since he's likely betting if he's floating or if he has a draw. I doubt he's calling a 2nd barrel with a 6 or a 7.

Sauce i like a bet/call with your image in a more aggro game but i think a check is better at 100NL from a guy with a non-insane image.
08-22-2007, 05:01 PM
Numbr2intheWorld

Quote:

Originally Posted by sauce123

this post made on iPhone so sick

cheh
08-22-2007, 10:58 PM
larsmars

My thoughts exactly. Villain probably isn't retarded, but it's usually safe to assume that most unknown villains are bad poker players. I know how Andy plays and it's more like "TAgg with an attitude". If he bets again he will fold out a lot of the hands he's beating. If villain is laggy, well, then he's going to bet if checked to because that's what laggy players do.