20NL flopped a straight QJ, thoughts?

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08-27-2007, 07:25 AM
acesfullokings

20NL flopped a straight QJ, thoughts?

Noble Poker 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($9.30)
SB Hero ($20.00)
BB BB ($61.86)
UTG ($44.51)
UTG+1 UTG+1 ($23.46)
CO ($22.75)

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Q:s: J :c:
1 fold, UTG+1 calls 0.20, 2 folds, Hero calls 0.10, BB checks.

Flop (0.60) T:s: 8 :d: 9 :d:
Hero bets 0.40, BB raises to 0.80, UTG+1 calls 0.80, Hero raises to 2.00, BB calls 1.60, UTG+1 calls 1.60.

Turn (7.80) K :h:
Hero bets 4.00, BB calls 4.00, 1 fold.

River (15.80) 5 :d:
Hero bets 5.00, BB raises to 20.00, Hero moves all-in for 8.40

Final Pot 49.20

{changed the image links to use FTR icons - HalvSame}
08-27-2007, 09:55 AM
Ash256

Can you sort the hh out pls? That's unreadable.
08-27-2007, 10:03 AM
djzcko

Can't read the HH either. For the most part, you should not slow play a flopped str8. You will get burned a lot with sets boating up and you will also likely lose action on later streets because there are too many scare cards which can hit. Jam it hard and try to get the $ allin as early as possible.
08-27-2007, 03:56 PM
acesfullokings

Yes that HH is odd, it was ok last night when I posted it.

EDIT: In the preview it is displaying fine, so I'm confused. When I go to edit it, it doesn't have the extra stuff in the img tag so I dont know how to fix it :|
08-27-2007, 04:08 PM
bode

3-bet to $3 atleast on the flop. Raising to $2 doesnt accomplish anything here, and the 2 villains already in for 0.80 aretn folding for $1.20 more. As played just push the river. If im reading that jumbled mess right, you still have the nuts so get your money in there.
08-27-2007, 11:22 PM
Halv

Dunno what was happening with the image tags, but I just replaced the links with the forum icons. If this happens again later, just replace the whole [img] with :h: etc.

As for the hand, I think Bode-ist nailed it. 3-bet flop a bit harder, bet turn harder, by then there's no tough decision on the river.
08-27-2007, 11:31 PM
Ash256

n1 Halvsame.

I like a raise to the $2.80-3.20 area on the flop and a bet of about 80-90% pot on the turn..

Whilst we have the nuts, any diamond and any board pair can really fuck up the hand for us (as in not only does more of our opponent's range beat us, but scarecards also freeze our opponent up), so we need to get some money in pretty fast.

I'm guessing BB had diamonds?
08-28-2007, 05:14 AM
acesfullokings

Thanks for fixing that Halv, I was about to do the same thing. Thanks for the feedback guys, Ash villian had 6 :d: 7 :d:
08-28-2007, 05:37 AM
GrindCity3

yea your not getting enough money in on the flop and your just asking for someone with diamonds to call you there. also bet larger on the turn. make it like 5.50-6....
08-28-2007, 06:28 AM
bode

Quote:

Originally Posted by acesfullokings

Thanks for fixing that Halv, I was about to do the same thing. Thanks for the feedback guys, Ash villian had 6 :d: 7 :d:

at this level, villain probably isnt folding a straight/flush draw to any turn bet, but it shows the importance of betting closer to a PSB to charge him the max for chasing.
08-28-2007, 07:33 AM
acesfullokings

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bode-ist

Quote:

Originally Posted by acesfullokings

Thanks for fixing that Halv, I was about to do the same thing. Thanks for the feedback guys, Ash villian had 6 :d: 7 :d:

at this level, villain probably isnt folding a straight/flush draw to any turn bet, but it shows the importance of betting closer to a PSB to charge him the max for chasing.

Yeah I gave that some thought before I played tonight and thought more about my bets sizes tonight. That combined with some better laydowns led to a much better session tonight.