Q-8o 200NL Turn bluff

Villain is 30/17 over 50 hands. He seems like an okay player, but not great. He has been reasonably aggressive, but hasn't done anything crazy.

When he c/r'ed the flop after limping PF i figured Xs-Xs and complete air were the majority of his range. I was going to fold to a strong turn bet, but when he lead for 1/2 pot i figured he had a draw or was still bluffing, and decided to shove.

Villain: ($210.10 in chips)
Hero: ($197 in chips)
2 other players

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero: [8h Qc]
2 folds
Villain: calls $1
Hero: raises $6 to $8
Villain: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Kd Ks Js]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets $12
Villain: raises $12 to $24
Hero: calls $12
*** TURN *** [Kd Ks Js] [6h]
Villain: bets $34
Hero: raises $131 to $165 and is all-in

I think the flop check/minraise looks more like a weak king than a draw.

tell me you arent bluffing the nuts?

A lot of players are probably limping/calling PF with KJ here, this flop is my nightmare when hands play like this.

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Originally Posted by 2_Thumbs_Up

I think the flop check/minraise looks more like a weak king than a draw.

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I see a lot of players min raise c-bets with strong hands. And i wish i had taken that into consideration.

All in all i think my line is clearly worse than folding to his c/r with no reads. I would say that lately 98% of the time when a situation like this occurs, i just pitch the hand and wait for a better spot. For some reason i instantly decided his c/r min raise was weak and was going to shove a non spade/A/9 turn.

I don't like it. Your overbet bluff doesn't smell like any sort of really strong hand if you ask me and you may even get a call from something like Aj. If your going to stand up to someone bluffing with complete air i think u should do it when you can at least have some outs and not be drawing dead.

just don't try it. Realistically, you don't really know what he has.