Is it a bluff? Squeezed pot with 77

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10-06-2007, 07:31 PM
Numbr2intheWorld

Is it a bluff? Squeezed pot with 77

main villain in this hand is completely unknown. The raiser is a TAGG. The only hand i can put this guy on is AJ-QJ.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($200)
UTG ($252.75)
MP ($214.70)
CO ($467.50)
Button ($501.85)
SB ($210.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
2 folds, CO raises to $7, 1 fold, SB calls $6, Hero raises to $35, CO folds, SB calls $26.

Flop: ($75) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $49, SB raises to $98, [color=#CC3333]Hero ?????????
10-06-2007, 10:05 PM
IowaSkinsFan

why the gigantic raise pre? Don't give me thats standard bullshit, tell me why.

What was your plan on the flop?

As played I probably fold, but I see some merit in shoving as a bluff, but it would involve a tight read of minraises to fold.
10-06-2007, 10:36 PM
Numbr2intheWorld

Well... i think 31 is actually standard here. I can't really tell you why i did 35 it's really strange. It must have been a misclick.
10-06-2007, 10:43 PM
Numbr2intheWorld

My plan was pretty much bet/give up. But when he minraised i started thinking things through more and realized how strange it was that he would raise here.
10-07-2007, 12:17 AM
Vi-Zer0Skill

Preflop action by SB is weird. He really can't have an overpair, but A-J/flush draws probably aren't going to fold if you shove so i would just bet/fold. In my experience, c/r min raises in RR pots are from strong hands, not draws.

If you were >150BB deep i think a bluff shove here would be really good.
10-07-2007, 03:44 AM
Genitruc

i ve seen lots of ppl do this with like 99 fwiw
10-07-2007, 09:16 AM
dsaxton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massimo

My plan was pretty much bet/give up. But when he minraised i started thinking things through more and realized how strange it was that he would raise here.

Yes, it's very strange, but people do stuff that doesn't make sense all the time. While a real hand is rarely played like this, I think it's probably done as a bluff almost never. He probably has a J and won't fold it.
10-07-2007, 09:47 AM
Jack Sawyer

Minraise brings you past commitment point, I'd give him credit for a real hand.
Calling isn't an option obv. He won't put in half his stack and then fold at any further point in the hand

What I don't get is the supersize raise pre
10-07-2007, 10:57 AM
IowaSkinsFan

What if he called the flop?
10-07-2007, 12:26 PM
Numbr2intheWorld

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massimo

My plan was pretty much bet/give up (barring some ridiculously good bluffing cards). But when he minraised i started thinking things through more and realized how strange it was that he would raise here.

FMP
10-07-2007, 12:52 PM
biondino

In my crappy low-stakes games his check/minraise looks like "I don't think he has a jack or a 3, I'll minraise to check", and is usally donw with a mid PP or overcards.