400FR, Hello New Guy

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11-08-2007, 06:56 PM
Setzy

400FR, Hello New Guy

I have history with one player at the table, and he's not involved in the pot. 3-better just sat down and posted...now what?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

SB ($426.60)
BB ($406)
UTG ($561.50)
UTG+1 ($450.50)
MP1 ($279.70)
MP2 ($213.20)
MP3 ($400)
Hero ($480)
Button ($365.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/qc.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/qs.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $4.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $4, MP1 raises to $16, MP2 calls $16, MP3 (poster) raises to $68, Hero ... ?
11-09-2007, 09:35 AM
ChrisBCritter

Edit: misread the action, assumed you were initial raiser...

Jeez, a lot of people like their hands here. I can't find a fold button here, and calling just leaves too many doors open. Unless you can put somebody on a sooper tight range here, I think you have to 4-bet to $200?/push? and not like it when someone calls. You're going to be playing a big pot with a big hand.

I hate these spots with TT-QQ...
11-09-2007, 10:14 AM
seoul_child1

Personally i would felt this hand in your position!
11-09-2007, 10:24 AM
DaNutsInYoEye

i fold.
11-09-2007, 10:33 AM
seoul_child1

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

i fold.

i'd like to understand your reasoning? JJ is an easy fold, but QQ, can we really let go that easily? your opponents are 2 half stacks & 1 full...
11-09-2007, 10:55 AM
ChrisBCritter

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

i fold.

nit.
11-09-2007, 12:15 PM
Renton

140/call
11-09-2007, 12:43 PM
Dislexsik

against an unknown i fold
11-09-2007, 01:39 PM
Miffed22001

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

i fold.

seconded.
if we play preflop we are folding/calling a shove on flop or we arent folding if we call a flop.
Effectivly you commit to stacking off preflop on non A/K flops which even then might be bad,
11-09-2007, 04:21 PM
Warpe

I grudgingly fold.
11-09-2007, 10:18 PM
Deanglow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

140/call

I do this.
11-09-2007, 11:26 PM
BankItDrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deanglow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

140/call

I do this.

Then get as much in on the flop as possible when no ace or king comes? I think I've lost more $ to overpairs in this situation than I have gained.
11-10-2007, 01:50 AM
Jack Sawyer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpe

I grudgingly fold.

best move imo
11-10-2007, 04:31 AM
Setzy

For those of you who said call or 4-bet, are we stacking off preflop for any/all of the following (ignoring the MP2 cold-call, which appears to be the weakest hand in the group):

MP1 4-bets (if we call) or 5-bets allin (presumably if we raise) and MP3 folds?

MP1 4-bets (if we call) or 5-bets (if we raise) and MP3 goes all in?

MP1 folds to whatever action we take and MP3 pushes over a 4-bet for a full 100bb?

I'm glad to see this hand finally got some love.