50NL, A big bluff

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12-07-2007, 11:41 AM
badgers

50NL, A big bluff

Villain is 17/10/4 over 1kish hands. I think he's capable of raising with air here, and I also think he will fold QJ-AJ to my threebet. All I'm worried about is sets and his range is wide so this is ok...? And no, I don't normally do big bluffs at 50NL because it's usually spew.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($50)
Hero ($59.72)
MP ($49.75)
Button ($64.89)
SB ($52)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Kh, As.
Hero raises to $2, MP folds, Button calls $2, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: ($4) 3s, Jd, 2d (2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button raises to $8, Hero raises to $20,
12-07-2007, 01:57 PM
IowaSkinsFan

the concept of bluffing here is really dumb, you shouldn't try to punish someone who isn't raising the flop light here.
12-07-2007, 04:38 PM
thizzSantaCruz

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

the concept of bluffing here is really dumb, you shouldn't try to punish someone who isn't raising the flop light here.

Why do you say he isn't raising the flop lite here? Didn't OP say villain is capable of raising air here? If he is this is a good flop to be raising air with correct? It all depends on how wide hero's utg raising range is. If its narrow I think its a bad play because villain won't be raising such a strong range. If its wide I think villain could easily raise it as a bluff and then the 3bet would be good.
12-07-2007, 04:50 PM
bode

Quote:

Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

the concept of bluffing here is really dumb, you shouldn't try to punish someone who isn't raising the flop light here.

Why do you say he isn't raising the flop lite here? Didn't OP say villain is capable of raising air here? If he is this is a good flop to be raising air with correct? It all depends on how wide hero's utg raising range is. If its narrow I think its a bad play because villain won't be raising such a strong range. If its wide I think villain could easily raise it as a bluff and then the 3bet would be good.

just because hes capable of raising air here doesnt mean hes doing it much. An UTG raiser is less likely to show up with air here also so you have to take that into account. Especially since hes 17/10 over 1k hands.