just checking

villain is completely utterly unknown

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($600)
UTG ($631.50)
Hero ($600)
CO ($600)
Button ($204)
SB ($275.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $21, 3 folds, BB calls $15.

Flop: ($45) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB calls $30.

Turn: ($105) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $78, BB calls $78.

River: ($261) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $201, BB raises to $471 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $393

yes fold, likely a set, doubt very much it's a bluff

Why are we betting if we're folding to a raise?

because he check calls with tons of hands we beat but only check raises with hands we lose to

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Originally Posted by gabe

because he check calls with tons of hands we beat but only check raises with hands we lose to

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AQ has to be at the bottom of our vbetting range though right? What's the worst hand you'd value-bet here Gabe, or Max or any of you guys?

What if we have AJ here? Is that b/f or b/c?

Also, if AJ is b/c, what's the best hand you'd b/f and why?

...so we're betting for value.

meh. I want to check behind a lot here. is that bad?

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Originally Posted by Warpe

...so we're betting for value.

meh. I want to check behind a lot here. is that bad?

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Against an unknown I think it's bad.

I check the turn.

You bet too much if you were intending to fold to a raise, more than half your stack belongs to the pot now.

Betting bigger reduces our opponents bluffing frequencies, meaning in this spot, he's never bluffing. It gets harrier if we valuebet small and think we might have induced a bluff.

looks good to me

there isnt solid value here and i dont want to get bluff raised so i chk behind

I think checking back AQ here makes our river betting range suck hard

I would of said bet but looking at the hand more closely villain can soooo easily have 33/66/AJ/A3/A6 that betting is really thin on river. We'd pretty much only get value from a hero call with Jx.

Worst hand id call with here is probably AJ or something.

I haven't played this high in a while but.....


Against unknowns I get scared shitless in these spots because they could have anything really, they've called you twice, so I just check behind.

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Originally Posted by bigspenda73

Also, if AJ is b/c, what's the best hand you'd b/f and why?

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good post- would be nice to know if he is the 70% of players who dont call Axs in the BB or the 30% who do....

against a complete unknown your river betsizing seems bad max.

if i bet river its going to be goofy

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Originally Posted by sauce123

against a complete unknown your river betsizing seems bad max.

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I really thought about the river bet sizing, it was tough for me. Something like 160-150 was probably going to get the same amount of calls as 200-220, if not less imo. 90-120 just didn't seem as good.

What would you suggest?

so sauce you probably wouldn't be this river?

90-120 i think, just based on the unknown dynamic. of course its different for me because i know 99.9% of the regs on stars so when i see an unknown my assumption is strongly weighted towards he sucks, so hes not rly an unknown.

so given that assumption i fire out 90-120 just based on the fact that hes likely some 40 yr old dude taking a shot who will idly click the call btn and i beat all his bluffcatchers so bet. obv fold to a raise for same reasons...