KK in tough spot

villain was unknown(8/6.7 around 75 hands) and didnt do anything out of line at this table. Fold, call/reevaluate or just shove over?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($200)
MP ($478)
CO ($206.50)
Button ($144)
Hero ($258)
BB ($227.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $8, UTG calls $8, CO calls $8.

Flop: ($40) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (4 players)
Hero bets $35, BB raises to $80, UTG folds, CO folds, Hero ?

You have three options:

1) call. check push turn
2) fold
3) raise

I think I would follow this order. Raising is the worst Idea because you're not going to get more value out of a raise against a player making a move, and you have no reads to suggest villain is making a move here. If you are up against a better hand, it adds another reason not to raise.

I put folding as 2nd option because I don't see myself folding KK here most of the time.

I would snap fold because you are 50/50 at best. Without the information that he is a complete donk, and the # of people behind him, make me fold.

calling and open shoving blanks is so much better than check shove omg

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Originally Posted by Deanglow

I would snap fold because you are 50/50 at best. Without the information that he is a complete donk, and the # of people behind him, make me fold.

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i agree with this. i dont know if i could bring myself to do it, but yeah.

i think you should fold though

All this fold advice makes me very scared of 200NL. This is insta-push for me at 25NL....even vs a 8/6.7

this made me think a lot about moving down to 100 NL.:lol: Indeed scary when in doubt.

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Originally Posted by d0zer

All this fold advice makes me very scared of 200NL. This is insta-push for me at 25NL....even vs a 8/6.7

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if i call his raise, i already put over 1/3 of my starting stack in the pot and past commitment threshold. After thinking this way, shoving right away might be a little better than call/reevaluate. As played, i chose to fold my KK coz his line looked pretty strong in multi-way pot.