to do or not to do (please to be advising me)

Ive got this stupid fucking portfolio that I need to put together by monday for my baking and pastry class. The thing is I just checked my grades online, and I have a 72% right now, which is passing. The Portfolio is worth 12%, and the chef is a pretty generous grader. I would mostly get bumped up to a B. The problem is, is that Ive barely started, and its going to be typing out 30+ pages of notes, some of which Ill have to fabricate since I have misplaced/lost/never had them. I also am going to have to put pictures in, and type out a buncha other crap and then refine it so it looks good. My estimate is that it would take 14-16 hours of work.

Pros(of doing it):
-if I put in the work it will net me a B
-my chef wont think Im a retard
Cons
-waste of time when its not at all necessary
-I could be doing something else like masturbating
-its possible that I do it, and since I am actually missing a lot of notes, Id still get a C

Pros(of not doing it):
-opens up my weekend to poker playing and random fits of masturbation
-I can go get fuccccked up tonight like Ive been dying to do for so long
-I can let my shoulders down and stop stressing
Cons:
-I could let my chef down and hed think Im a lazy schmuck. I really do care what this chef thinks because hes been good to me and did a really good job of conveying his ideas. Also he said that he would be happy to let me practice my knife cuts in his class. (hes not supposed to do this really)
-Id get a C ldo

do it

Do it

fuck, I hate you guys.

Do it


Doing this will benefit you more in long run than poker or masturbation.

You know you have to do this. If it's really your passion to cook, you will want to do this.

By the way, a B is not a C, and it's not even close.

If it was me, I wouldn't do it. But, although I knew the material, I was a terrible student who got bad grades because of never doing shit like that.

Don't be like me.

Do it.

There is plenty of time for Poker, Partying and Masturbation later in life

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Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

You know you have to do this. If it's really your passion to cook, you will want to do this.

By the way, a B is not a C, and it's not even close.

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sure theyre the same, DUCY?

make a good impression on your chef instructor. Anyone can cook food; but if you get a good word in from this guy you don't know where that could get you.

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Originally Posted by bigred

Do it


Doing this will benefit you more in long run than poker or masturbation.

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I cant see how this is true.

normally i'd say, wtf ja??? don't do that shit, are you crazy!??????? (rhetorical question, i know)

but this kinda stuck out.. "I really do care what this chef thinks because hes been good to me and did a really good job of conveying his ideas. Also he said that he would be happy to let me practice my knife cuts in his class. (hes not supposed to do this really)"

I think you should do it. Going from a C to a B doesn't seem too important, though. In the food/bar industry, experience and people skills get you a lot farther than grades. In a roundabout way then, this suggests you should do it.

and come on man, when do i EVER recommend that somebody work on something school related? this might actually be the first time. plus it's not like you're big timing at poker (yet!!), where you have a huge opportunity cost.

Do it.

dont do it, if the grade doesnt matter, fffffuuckkk it!

do it

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Originally Posted by Triptanes

do it

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Im severely disappointed to hear this coming from you jon.

after talking this over with boost and understanding what he actually has to do, i have thought about this and come up with my new answer of, "do whatever you feel like doing."

taking notes on an entire textbook does not sound like fun.

does gpa matter in culinary school?

If so, how much does it matter?

I'm heavily leaning towards screw it (leaving time to screw yourself) but could be persuaded otherwise.

jah u wont regret doing it, so do it

DO IT

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ky/starsky.jpg

C'MON, DO IT

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Originally Posted by Ultimate George

DO IT

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ky/starsky.jpg

C'MON, DO IT

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if this guy is telling you to do something, then you probably shouldn't

ZING!

This chef obviously likes you. Don't do anything that would make him think less of you. You may need a favor or recommendation from him in the future... you never know. What's 16 hours of pain right now when you're talking about the rest of your career?

Do it.

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Originally Posted by chardrian

does gpa matter in culinary school?

If so, how much does it matter?

I'm heavily leaning towards screw it (leaving time to screw yourself) but could be persuaded otherwise.

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nah, gpa doesnt really mean shit. No chef is gonna be like "well Id love to hire you, your resume is great, but sadly your gpa just isnt up to our standards." Sometimes I find myself getting into the over achiever mode trying to get the highest grade possible. But really thats stupid in most schools but esp in culinary school. I feel like when I relax and just focus on learning I get way more knowledge, even if my grade suffers.

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Originally Posted by gabe

jah u wont regret doing it, so do it

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meh just ended my poker break dropping back down to 5/1 and made 350$ instead of doing this crap. And youre right I prob wouldnt regret it, but I doubt Ill regret not doing it either.

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DO IT

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ky/starsky.jpg

C'MON, DO IT

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hah, its too late now man. If I started now Id be up for another 6-8 hours, then have to work on it allllll day tommorow. And then I just might get it done. Fuck that.

gonna go drive over to my freinds hosue and buy a 12 pack on the way. Holla.

DO ITTTTT!!!

Is one night out REALLY worth something you'll have to see for a long, long time?

haha so much for listening to the people!

boost does what boost wants BCUZ he's boost

But masturbation is srsly awesome if you dont do it for 5 days anyway

don't ask for advice if you won't take it! this thread made me hungry.

Dude.

C's get Degrees. Get fuxxored

LMAO at

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Pros(of not doing it):
-opens up my weekend to poker playing and random fits of masturbation

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Do it

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Do it

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fuck, I hate you guys.

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Originally Posted by b-rabbit

don't ask for advice if you won't take it! this thread made me hungry.

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Yeah, I admit it was kinda douchey to ask for advice then just ignore it. I guess I already had made up my mind but didnt realize it yet. Also despite having my mind made up, I was still curious to see what people thought about this.

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Originally Posted by ensign_lee

DO ITTTTT!!!

Is one night out REALLY worth something you'll have to see for a long, long time?

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well its not just one night, it would be my entire weekend, or an entire day spent toiling away at this tedious ass shit.

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Dude.

C's get Degrees. Get fuxxored

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awesome. http://images.bimmerforums.com/smilies/buttrock.gif

you don't have to like it, you just got to do it
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\hopefully your math is corrrect and your C doesn't drop to a D or worse

and you probably will not get much extra support from the teacher in the future
like when another teacher asks if so and so is a fuckup and he answers yes kind of


think of your future and how you want to get there


i guess Cs will get you in to the Uni of ID

well what I have taken from this is that in the future Im going to do shit like this as I go. I should have been coming home and typing out my notes from the day every day, or at least do it once a week.

Do it incase you need to ask your chef for a reference when you're looking for a job.

Its easy to recommend to other people that they should do hours and hours of mindnumbing, tedious work for relatively small benefit.

A good grade will stay with you for life. Alcohol will be gone within 24 hours.

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Its easy to recommend to other people that they should do hours and hours of mindnumbing, tedious work for relatively small benefit.

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A good grade will stay with you for life. Alcohol will be gone within 24 hours.

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gah... going out and partying had nothing to do with it. I went to my friends house, it was me him, his girl and his roommate. I drank all of 3 beers then slept on his couch. I didnt decide to not do it because I didnt want to miss "the party." I understand if it came across that way though, but its not the case. I didnt do it because I simply do not see the benefit. If there was nothing to do last night, not that there really was much to do, I would have still not done it.

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A good grade will stay with you for life.

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LOLOL

It doesn't seem like your GPA will have much affect on your income/position/opportunities given your major. (I could easily be wrong).

If the reference thing is an option do it.

I completely blew off my physics labs. They were 1 credit hour each, and lab was 4 hours and it took another 4 hours a week to write the report. By getting 3 Cs instead of 3 As (was a 3 course sequence), I lowered my accume by 0.03 points tops.

I would never have done this when I was in undergrad (because of effort/return). When I was in gradschool I would have kept up with the work as I went a long, thus it would have been easy to finish (because I cared about learning as much as possible and doing a good job).

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Its easy to recommend to other people that they should do hours and hours of mindnumbing, tedious work for relatively small benefit.

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well put euph.

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LOLOL

It doesn't seem like your GPA will have much affect on your income/position/opportunities given your major. (I could easily be wrong).

If the reference thing is an option do it.

I completely blew off my physics labs. They were 1 credit hour each, and lab was 4 hours and it took another 4 hours a week to write the report. By getting 3 Cs instead of 3 As (was a 3 course sequence), I lowered my accume by 0.03 points tops.

I would never have done this when I was in undergrad (because of effort/return). When I was in gradschool I would have kept up with the work as I went a long, thus it would have been easy to finish (because I cared about learning as much as possible and doing a good job).

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yah man, this has no bearing on future employment whatsoever. Also my chef is not a bureaucratic retard. He understands real life. Also he has offered tutoring to me. Pretty much while he holds other classes, he has invited me to come and do as I please. Any disappointment he has can easily be made up by impressing him during this tutoring.

My school is one of the top culinary institutions in the country, it is also one of the few that is accredited. They have to require silly little "research" papers, and portfolios like this to appease the powers that be. However most chefs realize that while these assignments might have value, they are not essential in a culinary students education. They value practical hands on skills and knowledge over some silly well written paper. With all that said, I plan to talk to him and explain myself to him. I think he will understand my choice and see it as a valid one.

Make sure you let him know that Lukie of the FTR poker forum helped advise you in making your decision. This is very important.

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Make sure you let him know that Lukie of the FTR poker forum helped advise you in making your decision. This is very important.

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I think what this all boils down to is that he did not listen to you lukie. He listened to the correct advice I gave him. Chase 1, Lukie 0

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Make sure you let him know that Lukie of the FTR poker forum helped advise you in making your decision. This is very important.

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I think what this all boils down to is that he did not listen to you lukie. He listened to the correct advice I gave him. Chase 1, Lukie 0

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lukie burn! HI-FIVE!

i thought lukie advised not to do it?

anyways sweet sig trik

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I plan to talk to him and explain myself to him. I think he will understand my choice and see it as a valid one.

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This will not end well.

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I plan to talk to him and explain myself to him. I think he will understand my choice and see it as a valid one.

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This will not end well.

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Agreed. I hope you're not doing it as a "not worth the effort".

Next time do the work weekly and submit a good portfolio. You'll overall make a better impression if you generally do good work, instead of just good cooking.

this chef throws things at me, makes jokes about me being half black/half white, and during a class demo compared the way he was handling some dough to "playing with a newborn's pliable skull."

hes def the type of person that I just need to show Im not a complete schmuck. Hes not all srsbsns omfg grades omfg homework omfg omfg omfg

take him out and get him baked

FPY

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Originally Posted by flomo

take him out and get him to bake

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LOLOL

It doesn't seem like your GPA will have much affect on your income/position/opportunities given your major. (I could easily be wrong).

If the reference thing is an option do it.

I completely blew off my physics labs. They were 1 credit hour each, and lab was 4 hours and it took another 4 hours a week to write the report. By getting 3 Cs instead of 3 As (was a 3 course sequence), I lowered my accume by 0.03 points tops.

I would never have done this when I was in undergrad (because of effort/return). When I was in gradschool I would have kept up with the work as I went a long, thus it would have been easy to finish (because I cared about learning as much as possible and doing a good job).

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idk about the American education system

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Make sure you let him know that Lukie of the FTR poker forum helped advise you in making your decision. This is very important.

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I think what this all boils down to is that he did not listen to you lukie. He listened to the correct advice I gave him. Chase 1, Lukie 0

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chase do you even pay attention?? he listened to both of us. Chase 1, Lukie 2 (mom + cooking class)

BOOOOOOM HEADSHOT

I'm with you boost. Why do something that's useless and tedious? Just try to keep your chef on the good side and not make him think you're a douchebag. Which, given your charm, should not be difficult

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Originally Posted by salsa4ever

I'm with you boost. Why do something that's useless and tedious? Just try to keep your chef on the good side and not make him think you're a douchebag. Which, given your history of killing people with wooden spoons, should not be difficult

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ha, sorry, couldn't resist

also not sure where the wooden spoons reference came from, but i needed something that would sound badass.