Raised at the river and he should only have one better hand

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03-03-2008, 05:25 PM
Galapogos

Raised at the river and he should only have one better hand

Villain is 24/10/1.7

I don't have any recollection of him getting out of hand. Is this river an easy call? He thought for a bit before making the raise.

Texas Hold'em $1-$2 NL (real money), hand #P4-62115422-487
Table fetrand's HE, 3 Mar 2008 6:58 PM ET

Seat 1: ludo 59 ($71.95 in chips)
Seat 2: NCassady ($103.05 in chips)
Seat 3: Duckfighterz ($173.40 in chips)
Seat 4: rejic ($154.85 in chips)
Seat 8: Galapogos [ 7:c:,A:h: ] ($105.15 in chips)
Seat 9: Charli010 ($90.35 in chips)

Antes/Blinds
Galapogos posts blind ($0.50), Charli010 posts blind ($1).

Pre-Flop
ludo 59 folds, NCassady calls $1, Duckfighterz folds, rejic calls $1, Galapogos calls $0.50, Charli010 checks.

Flop [board cards 7:s:,K:d:,A:s: ]
Galapogos bets $3, Charli010 folds, NCassady calls $3, rejic calls $3.

Turn [board cards 7:s:,K:d:,A:s:,4:h: ]
Galapogos bets $10, NCassady calls $10, rejic folds.

River [board cards 7:s:,K:d:,A:s:,4:h:,3:d: ]
Galapogos bets $20, NCassady bets $62, Galapogos calls $42
03-03-2008, 05:31 PM
JL

Fold because he has 65 of spades!!!

Haha just joking. You have to call this.

The title of the thread is the reason why you have to call.
03-03-2008, 05:32 PM
Ash256

wtf? 5s6s? AA/KK?
03-03-2008, 05:50 PM
will641

eh call. and bet the turn harder.
03-03-2008, 05:56 PM
dalecooper

That's a crying call, I guess. Very curious what he had though.
03-07-2008, 11:10 AM
Galapogos

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalecooper

That's a crying call, I guess. Very curious what he had though.

JL was right, he had 56 spades. I honestly am still not sure this should be a call. I'm up against a very straight forward uncreative nittish villain. I've shown a lot of strength in this hand so far and no one at this level bluffs the river. Plus, this guy's too weak to raise a crappier two pair he picked up on the river. I absolutely knew he had that hand too when he raised, but I just couldn't get myself to fold when I could only put him on one hand that beat me.

Maybe I'm just being a bitch about losing.
03-07-2008, 11:18 AM
SmackinYaUp

My first thought was a shortstacked fish who hit a weaker 2 pair.
03-07-2008, 12:53 PM
Deanglow

I would fold this pretty quick. All types of weird slowplayed and backdoor stuff comes up in these spots. No way he raises for value worse.
03-07-2008, 01:03 PM
Galapogos

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp

My first thought was a shortstacked fish who hit a weaker 2 pair.

For some reason Ongame calls it 1-2NL but it is actually 100NL and we're both full-stacked.
03-07-2008, 01:44 PM
dalecooper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galapogos

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalecooper

That's a crying call, I guess. Very curious what he had though.

JL was right, he had 56 spades. I honestly am still not sure this should be a call. I'm up against a very straight forward uncreative nittish villain. I've shown a lot of strength in this hand so far and no one at this level bluffs the river. Plus, this guy's too weak to raise a crappier two pair he picked up on the river. I absolutely knew he had that hand too when he raised, but I just couldn't get myself to fold when I could only put him on one hand that beat me.

Maybe I'm just being a bitch about losing.

Despite all that & knowing the outcome, I'm OK with the call. I think even weak, uncreative nits might give you a little value raise with A3 or A4 on that river at times. I think you're beat a lot here, but not so definitely beat that it's a clear fold.
03-07-2008, 02:52 PM
Lukie

i've found that when you are quite sure that they have the one hand that they 'have to have', they pretty much always have it.

that said, i prob call this river but i'm a taggfish :(
03-07-2008, 06:37 PM
Galapogos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukie

that said, i prob call this river but i'm a taggfish :(

:shock:

Hmmm, this is a disturbing revelation as much of my game was constructed off your old strategy posts.