nl25 AA tough spot?

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03-04-2008, 01:27 AM
humanfugitive

nl25 AA tough spot?

Villain unknown.

Can we ever lay this down?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($23.70)
Button ($20.95)
SB ($30.30)
BB ($30.35)
Hero ($41.20)
MP ($15.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, Button calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($2.35) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button raises to $10, Hero???
03-04-2008, 01:29 AM
stenz

I'd snap shove.
03-04-2008, 01:35 AM
meeloche

Why would you want to lay this down? You have a monster here, I'd shove this all day and be happy about it. Yes your 1 pair hand is vulnerable but even if you are behind right now you hand has good equity as you probably have 11 outs to the nuts.
03-04-2008, 01:41 AM
humanfugitive

Yea, I just ran some ranges through stove and I'm at worst 28% dog. In this case, is it fine to ignore how much he is raising compared to how much we've committed?
03-04-2008, 06:12 AM
Marshall28

dude you have an overpair and the nut flush draw.... id be getting it in here w/ just the nut flush draw w/ only 1 over and be stoked. dont overthink it. be like tarzan. see good cards. bet. raise all in.
03-04-2008, 06:50 AM
bode

fist pump insta shove.
03-04-2008, 07:12 AM
Ash256

Stand up, thrust your hips at your computer screen, then press the ALL IN button.
03-04-2008, 07:36 AM
Manners

i think super system(2?) mentions a very similar hand to this, and his advice is to shove, which is a good idea imo.

If you didn't have the Ac it would be more of a read based decision and your table image would come into it.

Remember that air is in his range, very often some of the smarter fish keep an eye out on people that cbet a lot and reraise with rags on possibly scary boards for you,esp. IP.
03-04-2008, 07:42 AM
Manners

Quote:

Originally Posted by humanfugitive

Yea, I just ran some ranges through stove and I'm at worst 28% dog.

I think at worst you are actually a 23% dog if he has TQc/8Tc (you only have 5clubs left as direct outs). But you're probs ahead so don't worry about that!
03-04-2008, 07:44 AM
sil693

Shove it all in, laugh when the river is a club.
03-04-2008, 07:44 AM
Marshall28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manners

i think super system(2?) mentions a very similar hand to this, and his advice is to shove, which is a good idea imo.

If you didn't have the Ac it would be more of a read based decision and your table image would come into it.

Remember that air is in his range, very often some of the smarter fish keep an eye out on people that cbet a lot and reraise with rags on possibly scary boards for you,esp. IP.

...fish dont think about board types or opponent c-bet frequencies ... they just look at their cards and act
03-04-2008, 07:44 AM
Fnord

In a raised pot, you can't go too wrong playing Aces like the nuts on any flop.
03-04-2008, 07:47 AM
Manners

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall28

...fish dont think about board types or opponent c-bet frequencies ... they just look at their cards and act

When I first started playing the game 3yrs ago at 50NL I was doing this all the time and I didn't even know all the rules.
03-04-2008, 07:52 AM
Marshall28

its all semantics, i was just defining a fish.
03-04-2008, 08:40 AM
Manners

well i did say 'smarter fish' :P
03-04-2008, 03:10 PM
Pelion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash256

Stand up, thrust your hips at your computer screen, then press the ALL IN button.

QFT&LOLz
03-04-2008, 04:02 PM
will641

there is never a circumstance vs any villain where i fold this. snap shove every time!
03-04-2008, 04:20 PM
martindcx1e

This and shove
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