What to 3bet vs. Flushdraw flop minraises

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03-11-2008, 05:11 AM
mixchange

What to 3bet vs. Flushdraw flop minraises

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($172.55)
UTG ($98.90)
Hero ($91.50)
Button ($100.95)
SB ($80.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($9) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB raises to $14, Hero raises to ??

How much do you raise here? To $42? This is a flushdraw 95% of the time at this stake. I see it soooooooo much
03-11-2008, 05:54 AM
Irisheyes

As an aside, does anyone like calling the raise and getting it in on safe turns. Even if you add any possible draw, sets and 79 I don't think you can make a legit range for him where we have equity >50% without adding a pair weaker then ours.
03-11-2008, 03:55 PM
microgrinder

Clicking it back here might be fun.
03-11-2008, 06:39 PM
bode

Quote:

Originally Posted by microgrinder

Clicking it back here might be fun.

and give him cheap odds to see the turn w/ his FD that hes obv already trying to see cheap?
03-11-2008, 07:56 PM
meeloche

I'm raising to like 40ish trying to induce a shove. Especially if he's not a loose passive. He's likely just to say fuck it and shove with his draw.
03-11-2008, 08:21 PM
microgrinder

Quote:

Originally Posted by bode

Quote:

Originally Posted by microgrinder

Clicking it back here might be fun.

and give him cheap odds to see the turn w/ his FD that hes obv already trying to see cheap?

Yup. Shoving any safe turn. Folding any made flush turn. It's a more profitable play than flatting and shoving the safe turn. Just because he has odds to call doesn't mean theres not positive equity on your raise. Also sometimes you can get a fun read where the guy just calls this bet with a Flush draw, but comes over it with a set/97. Obviously vs. unknown I'm still stacking on flop if he comes over the top.

Raising to 40 is still fine too. I think he's almost always just going to shove over that though, which he isn't wrong to do with most flush draws. Come to think of it clicking it back probably isn't ideal but making some sort of smallish raise here is fun. :)