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I think this should be doable but I haven't really ever played 25NL. Don't know what to expect, am I in over my head? 1000 hands isn't a lot so I could win by just being lucky, but I hope that's not needed.
My normal style is like 24/17/2 (VPIP+PFR=41) but I'm used to a lot tougher opponents at higher stakes.
I will be posting interesting hands from this experiment.
kind of sounds like ISF thing were he is playing really really loose at 200nl. i dont think hes doing it anymore because he doesnt update the operation but maybe he still is.
this is very very doable imo
EZ, try vpip+pfr=140 for a challenge
I agree, I think this should definitely be easily doable.
You could feasibly just play with a huge vpip, limping a ton, and just outplay ppl postflop running like 75/25 or something.
I think this is definitely doable.
Ran nearly 20ptBB/100 over the first 10 hands and ran like 46/41 so this is not that hard. But the issue is that you should've said 100nl, its way easier to play loose if you table select complete nits. 50VPIP is really really hard to achieve even if you are trying, because calling raises is pretty dumb versus a 40/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by EzDuzIt
People who played NL25 2 years ago really havnt anything to say in this case. I give u 4 to 1 that you cant show profit playing VPIP+PFR > 100 25NL on Fulltilt
i might just be high, but pretty sure good players will be able to adapt really quicklyQuote:
Originally Posted by ZwiFT
lol i would take this bet and play it myself. over how many hands and how much money?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZwiFT
Optimal play is reeeeeal laggy down there imo
The games at 25nl are soooo passive that this should be very doable.
Definitely possible to show a profit. I don't think this is an optimal way of playing by any means and I don't know how much of a profit you'll obtain, but I think seeing some profit is highly likely.
Make a video!
I think it's doable, and that you can do it.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by minSim
But as said, 1k hands aint alot and luck might be a big factor either way. Still, will be fun to follow this.
I'm playing 25NL because that's the level my friend plays.
I have no idea what to expect, but I'm certainly not going to play any passive style. I'm planning to run about 55/45/2.
Making a vid is too distracting. I will consider making one later on if this doesn't turn out to be embarrassing. I will post hands as promised.
When are you gonna do this...and on which site?
i just tried 100vpip and ran excellently
longer post to follow
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2...vpipzk3.th.jpg
Seat 1: Janzinho ($44.60 in chips)
Seat 2: jp1811 ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 3: PiS.Juliam ($23.35 in chips)
Seat 4: ryggplask ($20.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Tooomi ($30.20 in chips)
Seat 6: nutsinho ($35.15 in chips)
PiS.Juliam: posts small blind $0.10
ryggplask: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nutsinho [Th Jd]
Tooomi: folds
nutsinho: raises $0.50 to $0.75
Janzinho: folds
jp1811: folds
PiS.Juliam: calls $0.65
ryggplask: raises $3 to $3.75
nutsinho: calls $3
PiS.Juliam: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts 4h Js]
ryggplask: bets $5
nutsinho: raises $26.40 to $31.40 and is all-in
ryggplask: calls $11.75 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Ts 4h Js] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 4h Js Kd] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ryggplask: shows [Kc Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
nutsinho: mucks hand
Seat 1: acespre26 ($28.05 in chips)
Seat 2: 000ashe000 ($23.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Dick Casino ($10.75 in chips)
Seat 4: ActionFalko ($27.05 in chips)
Seat 5: nutsinho ($46.10 in chips)
Seat 6: N.D.B ($19.30 in chips)
nutsinho: posts small blind $0.10
N.D.B: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nutsinho [3c 3h]
acespre26: calls $0.25
000ashe000: folds
Dick Casino: calls $0.25
ActionFalko: calls $0.25
nutsinho: calls $0.15
N.D.B: checks
*** FLOP *** [5d Qs 3d]
Dick Casino said, "A K I hope"
nutsinho: bets $1.25
N.D.B: calls $1.25
acespre26: raises $1.50 to $2.75
Dick Casino: folds
ActionFalko: calls $2.75
nutsinho: calls $1.50
N.D.B: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [5d Qs 3d] [8s]
Dick Casino said, "most likely pp. 6's"
nutsinho: bets $7
N.D.B: raises $7 to $14
acespre26: calls $14
ActionFalko: folds
nutsinho: raises $29.10 to $43.10 and is all-in
N.D.B: calls $2.30 and is all-in
acespre26: calls $11.05 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [5d Qs 3d 8s] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nutsinho: shows [3c 3h] (three of a kind, Threes)
acespre26: shows [Td Qd] (a flush, Queen high)
acespre26 collected $17.50 from side pot
N.D.B: mucks hand
acespre26 collected $58.15 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $78.65 Main pot $58.15. Side pot $17.50. | Rake $3
Board [5d Qs 3d 8s 7d]
Seat 1: acespre26 showed [Td Qd] and won ($75.65) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 2: 000ashe000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Dick Casino folded on the Flop
Seat 4: ActionFalko (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: nutsinho (small blind) showed [3c 3h] and lost with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 6: N.D.B (big blind) mucked [Qh 9c]
this was spew obv lolSeat 1: mikkelbn ($7.30 in chips)
Seat 2: francky61 ($19.55 in chips)
Seat 3: nutsinho ($26 in chips)
Seat 4: Norman79 ($23.65 in chips)
Seat 5: vtrockcrushr ($14 in chips)
Seat 6: Tooomi ($33.20 in chips)
vtrockcrushr: posts small blind $0.10
Tooomi: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nutsinho [7c As]
mikkelbn: folds
francky61: calls $0.25
nutsinho: calls $0.25
Norman79: folds
vtrockcrushr: folds
Tooomi: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js Ts 8s]
Tooomi: bets $0.75
francky61: calls $0.75
nutsinho: raises $2 to $2.75
Tooomi: raises $5.25 to $8
francky61: folds
nutsinho: raises $17.75 to $25.75 and is all-in
Tooomi: calls $17.75
*** TURN *** [Js Ts 8s] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [Js Ts 8s Tc] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tooomi: shows [Qs 9c] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
nutsinho: mucks hand
Tooomi collected $50.45 from pot
Seat 1: acespre26 ($74.90 in chips)
Seat 2: 000ashe000 ($23.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Dick Casino ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 4: ActionFalko ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 5: nutsinho ($25.70 in chips)
ActionFalko: posts small blind $0.10
nutsinho: posts big blind $0.25
coMoneyTrain: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nutsinho [Td Ad]
acespre26: calls $0.25
000ashe000: folds
Dick Casino: calls $0.25
ActionFalko: folds
nutsinho: raises $1.50 to $1.75
acespre26: folds
Dick Casino: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [8h 7s As]
nutsinho: bets $2
Dick Casino: calls $2
*** TURN *** [8h 7s As] [Th]
nutsinho: bets $21.95 and is all-in
Dick Casino: calls $6.40 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [8h 7s As Th] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nutsinho: shows [Td Ad] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
Dick Casino: shows [Js 9s] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
Dick Casino collected $19.65 from pot
Seat 1: mikkelbn ($10.75 in chips)
Seat 2: francky61 ($5 in chips)
Seat 3: nutsinho ($34.45 in chips)
Seat 4: Norman79 ($31.45 in chips)
Seat 6: Tooomi ($53.05 in chips)
francky61: posts small blind $0.10
nutsinho: posts big blind $0.25
Kempe4ever: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nutsinho [9s 6s]
Norman79: folds
Tooomi: folds
mikkelbn: calls $0.25
francky61: folds
nutsinho: raises $0.75 to $1
mikkelbn: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Qs 3s Qd]
nutsinho: bets $1.25
mikkelbn: calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [Qs 3s Qd] [8s]
nutsinho: bets $2.75
mikkelbn: raises $2.75 to $5.50
nutsinho: raises $2.75 to $8.25
mikkelbn: raises $0.25 to $8.50 and is all-in
nutsinho: calls $0.25
*** RIVER *** [Qs 3s Qd 8s] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nutsinho: shows [9s 6s] (a flush, Queen high)
mikkelbn: shows [7s As] (a flush, Ace high)
mikkelbn collected $20.55 from pot
nevertheless, i would be willing to take action on a prop that i can win over 1k hands playing at least 95% vpip (only accounting for misclick potential).
other rules:
i have to raise or call one standard raise (up to 5x) with ATC but i am allowed to fold to reraises preflop or to a raise and reraise cold into me.
if anyone wants to make a small bet on this, i will go for glory tomorrow sometime