Trips

This is a hand I railed. We are 130bb's deep vs villain.

5 handed playing with 3 shorty donks, myself and another reg

no Ptracker at this site but have played quite a bit with this reg and haven't seen him make any spewy bluffs

I don't however, know just how sick/insane he is and how often he'll be vbetting KT...


We are btn, villain is BB. UTG and CO are donk shorties, as is SB who completes after I limp behind with :9h: :8h:`

5 ppl to a :kh: :8d: :8c: flop

checked to the shorty in CO who minbets 2 into 10$

we call and then BB check-raises to 10$

Shorty min-bettor folds I call

Turn (30$) is :th: giving us FD

Villain bets 22$ into 30, we call

Riv is :2d:

Board now reads :kh: :8c: :8d: :th: :2d:

Villain bets 75$ into 70$

we fold

How'd we do?

Fail? Why not lead the flop? Our hand is so underrepped I can't fold the river. I guess this could be ok with the right read but I'm kinda drunk and can't really tell if we have any or not. LOL

the hands that beat you that he's repping are very unlikely

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

the hands that beat you that he's repping are very unlikely

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What about the hands that we beat that he's repping? I think we're smoked.

i really hate just about everything u did if u r folding river.

u didnt get any information and didnt once give yourself a chance to win the pot. why did you decide to flat the 2$ then flat the 10$? had to be because you thought u were slowplaying, otherwise you would raise in order to find out where you're at.

god, as i am looking back over this, im trying to figure out what villain has to put u on (if he's a thinking player) and the only hand i can think of is an 8 or a really weak K. when he checkraises, he could just think everybody looks really weak and be trying to take down the pot. i dont see why he'd ever do this w/ a K since he cant expect to get value from anything and w/ 5 players in the pot an 8 is very possibly in one of those players hands. so it's like, i guess he's repping an 8 or absolutely nothing. conceivably he could have picked up a FD on the turn or a SD on the turn w/ QJ and continued betting, and since he sees you flat call the turn he has to think you probably don't have the 8 otherwise you would raise to charge all of those draws. then when the river bricks, he has no way to win the pot but you havent shown any strength, so a bet of a little over pot seems like a decent sized bet to bluff with.

im just trying to think of what he could be thinking based on the way the hand was played out. i think this is the most likely scenario, because you showed absolutely zero initiative and played the hand so passively, i would think you are super weak or super storng too ... but only K8 and 8T can really flat this turn, every other 8 like HAS to be raising it, and if he's thinking he should know that. i dunno what u guys were thinking.

*Hi. My screenname is Genitruc and I do not necessarily approve of this hand*

edit : thread posted and paid for by Genitruc

a detail that I failed to post was that the shorty who lead out by minbetting 1bb into 10 had 14 bb's remaining and after the flop the pot would've been 7 bb's

also the 2 other shorties were sitting with less than 30bb's

his bet looks like an 8 GK that is trying to get a lot of value out of a weaker 8, but with how passively you played the hand i dont see how he can put you on an 8. he almost has to put you on a K. i think we have to call this. i think this could so easily be a weak K that figures the T is either chopping or he has some FE because you would prolly fold a K.

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Originally Posted by Galapogos

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

the hands that beat you that he's repping are very unlikely

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What about the hands that we beat that he's repping? I think we're smoked.

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if we think we're somewhere around fifty fifty on being ahead or behind then calling is snap due to money in pot.

i have trouble evaluating this hand well simply because it's an unfamiliar format and im thrown off my game and such, but i imagine that if i decide to play this hand this way im snapping. villain's flop c/r is very suspicious and could easily enough be air. turn and river then make sense to pull with air if he is the type to barrel when he senses weakness. we have repped a K, not an 8.

i have a problem with calling turn then folding river. the large majority of rivers wont change our hand strength; the only altering variable is whether or not and how much villain bets, and that's not often a good idea to make decisions on. especially since we've underrepped.

it is almost never correct to fold hands when we're underrepped or when a non-transparent villain is repping a thin range that beats us. the main problem in this hand isn't the river, it's the flop.