100NL: More goodies

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04-08-2008, 02:30 PM
d0zer

100NL: More goodies

Hand 1:

Villain unknown

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) Ultimate-Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($116.60)
UTG+1 ($4.65)
UTG+2 ($51.65)
MP1 ($41.50)
MP2 ($51.90)
MP3 ($87.80)
CO ($75.30)
Button ($101.90)
Hero ($105.95)
BB ($51.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, CO calls $1, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($6) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (6 players)
Hero bets $4, BB folds, UTG raises to $8, UTG+1 calls $3.65 (All-In), MP1 folds, CO calls $8, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($33.65) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)Hero ... ?

Hand2:

Villain 48/6/2 over 48. I seem to remember having him more as 32/2/3 over 30 when I played this though. How would this (if at all) change your play? Show all work for full marks.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (7 handed) Ultimate-Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

SB ($48.70)
BB ($52.05)
UTG ($132.85)
MP1 ($97)
Hero ($94.90)
CO ($103.45)
Button ($42.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ah.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/jc.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/th.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/6c.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/2c.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO calls $7.

Turn: ($23.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ad.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $13, CO calls $13.

River: ($49.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/qd.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $49.5, Hero ... ?
04-08-2008, 02:55 PM
BankItDrew

1)c/r big
2) everything looks good, except add in a fold on river. tpgk is not a great hand against a lot of strength and a potential 150bb pot.
04-08-2008, 03:25 PM
d0zer

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

1)c/r big
2) everything looks good, except add in a fold on river. tpgk is not a great hand against a lot of strength and a potential 150bb pot.

Let's say...uuhhhh...hypothetically in hand1 I bet the turn big, and UTG shoves over. Easy call at that point given the pot size mmMmmm?

Good point on the c/r though. Multi-way, someone's probably gunna bet + I'm repping enough strength to maybe push a nitter villain off a better king with the push.

Hand 2 hero tanks....tanks....can't decide so he lets himself time out. That's become my new policy. If I can't feel confident in a call before my timeout then I should probably just let myself be folded out.
04-08-2008, 03:35 PM
AHiltz

Hand 1: completing shit like K5 suited gets you into these sticky situations. As played, if you are behind, you still have a very nice draw. UTG could easily have AK and be too stunned to raise it preflop.

#2 - you've bet pre, bet the flop, bet the Ace and he still hasn't gone away. He has overbet the river (IMO), but I think this is a "if I overbet he may think I'm bluffing and maybe he'll call" moments. Without a read, I fold this.
04-08-2008, 03:41 PM
pgil

in hand 1 your best case scenario is you check, UTG bets, CO calls, you go AI. you have a full 11 outs vs sets that aren't KK.

hand 2, sometimes might want to check the turn. any timing tells or anything else could also be helpful here. are flop and turn instacalls, think then calls, think a long time then calls, etc?
04-08-2008, 03:42 PM
d0zer

I'm very attached to completing with Axs/Kxs/SCs in 4-ways+.

I'm open to a good argument as to why I shouldn't do this, keeping in mind that I'm becoming less and less scared of sticky postflop situations. I never continue with em' without a good draw, 2pr/trips etc... It's not like I'm spewing with TPNK in 4-ways (anymore).

I think the implieds are there.
04-08-2008, 04:07 PM
BankItDrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by d0zer

Let's say...uuhhhh...hypothetically in hand1 I bet the turn big, and UTG shoves over. Easy call at that point given the pot size mmMmmm?

yeah pretty much. you're only behind a set here and because you have 2 pair, sets are less likely. there are a dozen different hands that could be drawing as well.
04-08-2008, 04:25 PM
d0zer

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by d0zer

Let's say...uuhhhh...hypothetically in hand1 I bet the turn big, and UTG shoves over. Easy call at that point given the pot size mmMmmm?

yeah pretty much. you're only behind a set here and because you have 2 pair, sets are less likely. there are a dozen different hands that could be drawing as well.

Yeah that's how it went down.

I like your c/r plan for the turn though.