kk from small blind vs steal. Turn play?

First orbit, no history.
Was my flop bet ok?
No reads (first orbit), but I figure villain has some kind of pair - i'm probably ahead. Bet size to keep him in? play if he pushes? river plan if called?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($27.25)
UTG ($54.55)
UTG+1 ($20.55)
MP1 ($9.50)
MP2 ($10)
MP3 ($34.90)
CO ($54.80)
Button ($47.50)
Hero ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
6 folds, Button raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $5.25, 1 fold, Button calls $3.25.

Flop: ($10.75) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6.5, Button calls $6.50.

Turn: ($23.75) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets ?

Bet flop harder, committing $8-$10. Then, you have easy turn shove.

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Originally Posted by Vrax

Bet flop harder, committing $8-$10. Then, you have easy turn shove.

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bet flop harder I agree with.
But I'm not even close to pot committed even then, and calling behind is pretty standard with a set on this flop.
If I push the turn he's never calling with AJ unless completely stupid, 99&QQ both unlikely - so his calling range is a very well played AA or a set = no value in pushing.

Yeah, KK can be a biatch. A lot of people talk like KK is the nuts but I'm not convinced. My experience at 50NL is that a lot of people are VERY tight in 3bet pots - although it's very read dependent.
c/c or c/shove should get some value from QQ/AJ/etc, either now or on the river. If you bet and he raises/shoves, are you calling?

If people nit it up in 3bet pots, but open light, then 3bet them light and steal postflop. They'll whiff 85% of the time in attempt to outflop your "big pair".

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Originally Posted by daven

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Originally Posted by Vrax

Bet flop harder, committing $8-$10. Then, you have easy turn shove.

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bet flop harder I agree with.
But I'm not even close to pot committed even then, and calling behind is pretty standard with a set on this flop.
If I push the turn he's never calling with AJ unless completely stupid, 99&QQ both unlikely - so his calling range is a very well played AA or a set = no value in pushing.

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Bigger flop bet leaves less, than PSB behind on turn. If he folds on turn AJ or Ace of spades, then it's good outcome, because pot is big and in big pots you don't mind him abandoning his equity, even when it'd be mistake for him to defend it.

doesn't really matter how you get it in but do it somehow.

if you decided that you were committed on the flop, i like c/r all-in on the turn vs sorta aggressive players.