Very unique hand

Villain is playing 94/66/11.0, ie. he is the most surreal player I have ever encountered. How the fuck do you do this?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($48.75)
UTG+1 ($50.30)
MP ($76.85)
CO ($69.60)
Hero ($91.75)
SB ($92.50)
BB ($29.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 7 players) Hero is BTN :as: :kd:
4 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold

Flop: :9d: :2d: :td: ($4.50, 2 players)
SB bets $13, Hero calls $13

Turn: :3s: ($30.50, 2 players)
SB bets $6, Hero calls $6

River: :7d: ($42.50, 2 players)
SB goes all-in $71.50, Hero goes all-in $70.75

Final Pot: $181

i would have raised the flop looking to get it all in. rest is fine though.

its a 50/50 high variance game vs this player where you might or might not have slight edge. It really depends on whether you want to gamble with him or not given 180BB deep. Also, you gotta notice that your fold equity on the flop is almost zero vs this loose aggressive donk who might overbet with Adx, any top pairs, midpairs with flush draw and some combo draws. By the way, i probably fold this on flop to avoid variance and look for another spot where i have much bigger edge and get all-in/stack him comfortably like i hold AdKx on the same flop.

Raise flop for value

His range contains so many hands your way ahead of.

Yeah just shove flop I doubt he's folding any draws and that includes hands like 5s6d or something...

I laugh and fold the flop.

When we raise/shove with drawing hand on the flop, we should have at least a little fold equity. Also, there are so many opportunities for you to stack this huge LAGG donk that you dont really have to risk your whole 180BB stack in this situation. Keep in mind that there's big equity difference beween AdKx and AxKd on all diamonds flop. Dont flat call this vs retarded players without any plan.

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Originally Posted by pokerfan

When we raise/shove with drawing hand on the flop, we should have at least a little fold equity.

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i disagree here. AK high could very easily be the best hand and he will call.

lets pokerstove , provided that he didnt flop sets or two pairs and overbet with wide range. Do you want to risk your 180BB stack without any fold equity in this small pot??
11,880 games 0.005 secs 2,376,000 games/sec

Board: 2d 9d Td
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.455% 45.08% 00.38% 5355 45.00 { AsKd }
Hand 1: 54.545% 54.17% 00.38% 6435 45.00 { 8c8d, 7d7s, 6d6h, 5c5d, AdQc, AdJs, AsTc, Ac9h, Ad9s, Ad7s, Ad2s, JdTc, Tc8h }

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Originally Posted by badgers

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Originally Posted by pokerfan

When we raise/shove with drawing hand on the flop, we should have at least a little fold equity.

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i disagree here. AK high could very easily be the best hand and he will call.

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Originally Posted by pokerfan

lets pokerstove , provided that he didnt flop sets or two pairs and overbet with wide range. Do you want to risk your 180BB stack without any fold equity in this small pot??
11,880 games 0.005 secs 2,376,000 games/sec

Board: 2d 9d Td
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.455% 45.08% 00.38% 5355 45.00 { AsKd }
Hand 1: 54.545% 54.17% 00.38% 6435 45.00 { 8c8d, 7d7s, 6d6h, 5c5d, AdQc, AdJs, AsTc, Ac9h, Ad9s, Ad7s, Ad2s, JdTc, Tc8h }

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Originally Posted by badgers

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Originally Posted by pokerfan

When we raise/shove with drawing hand on the flop, we should have at least a little fold equity.

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i disagree here. AK high could very easily be the best hand and he will call.

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Why've you weighted his range like that? That's a really bad range imo he's so much wider than that, for instance you put in AdQc but not AcQd, you think he play that differently? And to say we don't have any fold equity is possibly wrong, I've seen stranger plays even if he folds 5% of the time that changes things dramatically.

If it where the Ad I would rumble with him. But here I think I wait.

dude, i didnt even include made flush 2d3d ,92,T2 or garbage two pairs in his range :wink:
our TPTK,TPMK ,overpair or monster nuts drawing hand gain huge value against uber LAGG and are good enough to stack off with.
Here, the fundamentals of No limit poker are telling that its just too volatile for us to overcommit and stack off 180BB deep in a small pot without made hand or huge nuts drawing hand vs Uber loose donks. Is is clear,badgers?:)

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Originally Posted by badgers

Why've you weighted his range like that? That's a really bad range imo he's so much wider than that, for instance you put in AdQc but not AcQd, you think he play that differently? And to say we don't have any fold equity is possibly wrong, I've seen stranger plays even if he folds 5% of the time that changes things dramatically.

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Originally Posted by pokerfan

dude, i didnt even include made flush 2d3d ,92,T2 or garbage two pairs in his range :wink:
our TPTK,TPMK ,overpair or monster nuts drawing hand gain huge value against uber LAGG and are good enough to stack off with.
Here, the fundamentals of No limit poker are telling that its just too volatile for us to overcommit and stack off 180BB deep in a small pot without made hand or huge nuts drawing hand vs Uber loose donks. Is is clear,badgers?:)

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What do you mean too volatile? I think we're ahead of villains stacking off range on this flop, and I'm happy to get it in. I don't care how deep we are, and it shouldn't matter as long as BR management is solid. There's no such thing as too volatile unless you can't take the swings, I'm happy to get it in with A high and a draw vs. this tard because I think it's +EV.

I don't really care what the "fundamentals of No Limit holdem" are telling us. This is a unique situation vs. an idiot, I believe we're ahead of his calling range so I would push. Any FE here is a bonus.

if you think you dominate his hand and want to take the risk, then what else can i say? :(

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,070,190 games 0.078 secs 13,720,384 games/sec

Board: 9d 2d Td
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.534% 40.72% 01.81% 435830 19363.50 { AsKc }
Hand 1: 57.466% 55.66% 01.81% 595633 19363.50 { random }


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That is approximate range on the flop, absolutely not joking :) I saw him call an 80 BB bet with A9o on a K63 rainbow earlier on.

His hand is better than random and he bet you off of your equity. Laugh at his sexy Skylansky line and fold.

Ummmmmmm try inputting the correct hand...

1,070,190 games 0.047 secs 22,770,000 games/sec

Board: Td 9d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 67.001% 66.62% 00.38% 712919 4117.50 { AsKd }
Hand 1: 32.999% 32.61% 00.38% 349036 4117.50 { random }


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Originally Posted by badgers

Ummmmmmm try inputting the correct hand...

1,070,190 games 0.047 secs 22,770,000 games/sec

Board: Td 9d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 67.001% 66.62% 00.38% 712919 4117.50 { AsKd }
Hand 1: 32.999% 32.61% 00.38% 349036 4117.50 { random }


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LOL, I was a bit baffled by my results. Now I see why :(