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ok im back and im gonna grind. Had a horrible weekend dropping 6 buyins at 25nl in about 1.5 K hands so Im gonna get focused again and learn once more.
Lets go go go , oh wait everest is having a fanny attack (not working) so I cant play there now.
BR is about €680
Become a nit and never slow play on co-ordinated boards. When you have a set and you think villain has a big hand - raise raise raise.
I truly believe that this is the secret to poker.
Well I withdrew my monies at everest till the software connection improves. So whil ei was waiting for money to be pu tin my neteller i had nothing to play with last night sooooo i deposited $300 (thank god for the weak dollar0 on eurolinx to play some micro 6max games. played a few 100 hands to just BE, was fun tho and a nice change of pace from FR. I also think my time at FR has helped my 6max game.
hmmm play on a site like stars or soemthing? but yah the games are pretty tight, and its all about being a complete nit and getting it ALL IN with the nuts
Man, that sucks about Everest, been working fine for me.
You dropped back to 25NL now?
gl man
how many tables do you run at once usually?
Ok I played some more 6max on prima last night as i only receive partial withdrawal frm everest (i withdrew in 2 parts and the first part was small). Won a buyin at 20nl (no 25nl level), took a beat late on so i was up 2 buyins.
I play 4 tbl of 6max, prima s/w is fairly speedy and i just cant play 6tbls i just cant cope with the info. I play 10-12 tbl FR on everest.
Another good thing is ive been able to fix PT & PAHUD on prima so im able to tbl select better now.
Yea im playing 20-25nl now, its not so bad since i dont have proper 50nl BR just yet but i wud play 50nl if i had my whole roll on one site.
My plan for now is maybe keep half or so roll on a 6max site and the rest on FR site. im not sure about it, i prob shud just put most on FR site and play 6max a small bit when i want a change.
YAY i just passed my driving test
No love for the driving test huh!! tut tut
Played some 6max on party last night since i 4got my purple poker password :roll: Not too sad bcoz I ended up +$163 plus another $20 bonus from party while playing 50nl. This leaves my roll at over $1,000.
Some hands I put up on weaktight.
Hand 1 - Opp was running 89/15, I was beating on him bad. I had shoved rivers a few times vs him aswell as betting big on rivers too so I felt given the frequency that I was so so aggro on river with him that I big shove is even more likely to call me.
http://weaktight.com/228318
Hand 2 - Literally the very hand opp played b4 this was where he c/c flop and turn and open shoved river (he had 100bb to start that hand) with like A high so i figured he was tilting r defo capable of bluffing here.
http://weaktight.com/228320
hand 3 - Opp was a weak looseish player. I figure the turn and river cards strenghtened his range alot that my shove is good. I dont shove rivers that much btw.
http://weaktight.com/228321
Hand 4 - Again this hand is vs the uber 89/15 fish so calling flop has HUGE implied odds.
http://weaktight.com/228322
hand 5 - Im not sure I played this well. this is vs uber fish too, I prob cud go for 3 streets of value. Thoughts?? His range is crazy huge. He limps anything on the button and doesnt fold alot preflop. Hmm prob shud of bet bet bet here.
http://weaktight.com/228327
Appreciate any thoughts guys.
Hi Goat!
What happened to you mate? You had a quite good and confortable BR and you were even playing 200NL before?
Cheers!
Hey man,
Ah its a long story now if im including what happened since I had almost a 10K roll. I paid off a bunch of loans and stuff and then i kinda quit thru basically been very unfocused.
back now though and hoping this thread helps me focus again.
Oops, missed the driving test thing. Congrats :).
Me too. Gratz!Quote:
Originally Posted by bjsaust
Cheers guys.
btw my operation is pretty much doomed to fail since i may end up playing 6max instead of FR for the rest of the month. id get 20K hands at FR in not problem but defo not at 6max.
dont really want to make a monetary goal tho either. ill have to have a think about this one.
An absolute craxy night last night. wnet down $150 quickly to grind back over 3 hours to +$25. one rough night.
Great thing is Ive just shot over $1201. Yay
Dont hurt your game by chasing some arbitrary goal. Pick a new one if it'll help.
OK since im not gonna make 20K hands this month. My goal is to play 100nl within a month so i need about 12 more 50nl buyins to take shots.
12 buyins is the sub goal so.
sick...get to 100nl asap gogogogo
Well I pu tin another 3 hours play last night for a whopping total of $FIVE DOLLAZ. Got stuck down $50 at the start form losing a few small pots. I called a 1/3 river bet with KT on x66(fd flop)AT board after i bet bet called IP, I should of pitched the hand on river. I also ran a bluff with 66 on K75r flop by raising IP then I got c/r'd on turn and i folded, I decided to rep a set as a nit vs nit. I think my line matchs exactly how i play my sets so meh. dont have the HH with me so maybe ill post to get thoughts.
Anyway nothing really happened throughout the session except creep back over BE.
As a note and a leak I just not focusing properly and drifting off in autopilot way too much, Im missing out on massive +EV spots by just playing simple autopolit game. As a point this is a big factor I wish to improve, I read b4 that (spoon said it i think) I shouldnt try focus for a full3 hours since I wont be adpated to it instead try push to focus for another 15 mins each session or when tired just push for another 15 minutes. DO this each session and I should be able to last the pace.
Gonna be playing a live tourney this saturday. Think its a €55 Double Chance. Ive played these before with success in other clubs, im 2 FT from 4 attempts in these.
Wish me luck!! Should also be putting some hands in online in the morning bcoz gf is working.
Ah back to monday after a poker filled weekend.
Firstly I played for about an hour while gf watched big brother. I won $63 on party which I was very pleased. I recorded the session of 4 tbls at 50nl which I found very helpful for my focus and reasoning. I recommend if you only have an hour or so to actually record yourself.
Ok as well as that I finished 4th in a casino tourney, very poor turnout of about 35 ppl so the prizes were sucky. I went along with a friend from work who ended up chopping first and second place.
A real quick recap;
Very first hand im in BB and catch 33 in a big family pot. flop came KTx 2 spades. i bet bet bet and opp had KQo and i double up. Shortly after im in SB with AA and 3 limpers, i raise 25/50 blinds to 300. EP limper calls, LP limper shoves for 2650 (btw 3K starting stacks) i shove, EP folds. LP had 23s and cracks my AA on J4465 board. Ah well, honestly i was impressed this didnt phase me the slightist.
I didnt get much in premium hands and kinda floated around the same stack size for a good while, i cudnt splash around much as the table play was absolutly terrible. UNTIL i caught JJ UTG and shoved about 12-14BB allin, got called by AA and I sucked out a J on river, Yay i feel the karma. Immediately after that hand im in BB and pick up AKs, I very poor player who WAY WAY overvalue picture card hands open raises, SB calls (uber fish) and I shove allin (i cover both players well), poor player calls, SB folds, guy turns over QQ :shock: , flop hits T98 2 hearts (ive AKh), A on turn wraps it up for me. Very next hand in SB was AQo, same poor player limps while SB raises to about 1600, i repop to iso to 5000, poor player folds and SB calls me allin (5000 covered his stack roughly), he had KQ or something. So in the space of 3 hands I went from about 3.4K to 23.5K in chips and im among the big players.
So them results coasted me to the FT and then into the top 6. only 5 get paid so its bubble time. Players were very very tight and i stole with junk as much as i could and they never picked up on it, only crap thing was some granny on my right was also stealing. Both of us were by far very atcive, my problem was that at that stage i cudnt 3 bet very light as if to say fuck off these are my blinds since stacks were just deep enough that 3bet+c/b was about 1/2-2/3 of my stack. anyway made it to final 4 when my mates called grannys MP raise in BB with 33, flops 37J and he slowplays, granny goes allin on blank turn, he calls and he covers, she bluffed with A6o lol. now my mate is chipleader!!!
I end up getting knocked out by my mate 4 handed. He opened on button for 9K with 1.5K/3K blinds, i pick up TT which im delighted to see since ive been generally very card dead at FT and i shove about 25K, he calls and turns over KK. GL GG NO T KTHX BYE.
Good fun for the day and nice to see my mate win his first tourney!
GL Goat.
Oh and expect the money from Everest to take like FOREVER. Mine did.
Ugh the BR took at $180 hit last night. Pretty much due to 3 specific hands, 2 one outers and a 4 outer. all monies got in on turn and i got sucked out on.
Meh at least i didnt spew ;)
Poker seems to suck the last few days.
Maybe the next few it will start being gooder.
Well i wont be playing tonight, im actually gin gto see ironman in the cinema. I rly wasnt interested in it till I seen the Hulk movie with its little hint at the end.
Cool, going to see Indiana Jones myself. Figure a night off might be good after dropping $150 in 24hrs :p.
i heard ironman is an awesome movie, going to see it myself this weekend
it's time for you to start running good lol
seen the movie last night, i wasnt expecting much but i thought it was fairly/very good.
ill try run good tonight. may make a recording of it to, i think itll help with my focus etc which will in turn help results.
had a good player rail me last night, i dropped 2 buyins almost immediately then he started railing.
He caught some good hands and i felt as if i was then up under a buyin but when i checked HM is was actually still down a buyin. NOES!!
So i grinded on the very last railed hand i doubled up on a table and was finally BE or showing a tiny profit.
I played on for another hour after that and BOOM, im up 4buyins!!! Pretty sweet, this covers my losses the other day and put me back a track.
Had a brief scare when i dropped to just 20 buyins but im back up to 26 buyins i reckon.
BR roughly 1300
Nice :).
gl mate, I remember playing some 50NL at Full Tilt with you a couple of months ago. You should be able to go to 100NL within a month or 2 if you can put in the hours!
glad you had a better session last night
seeing as you made it to 200NL before, it's clearly not a matter of skill for you but a matter of how much time you can spend at the tables
Thx for the confidence Vi, Im really trying to get time at the tables. Only so much you can do while only 4 tbling 6max, it takes some time.
Yday I played about 1600 hands for only $9 WTF. Had 3 sessions and only won the last one. I dont think I focused enough though yday. I also sweated a player last night which was some fun.
btw I recommend for anyone with tilt issues, if you have a losing session do some reading on variance etc. I read just a paragraph in ''poker mindset'' just to reinforce the concept.
put in 709 hands today for a nice win of $142.60. Again i dropped a buy immediately at the start, got QQ AI pre vs AA, he tried to steal my BB so i showed him ;)
I made a vid of the first 50 min then just played on after. I think i played fairly well and there were some odd spots.
BR now sits at $1450, i doing pretty well.
overall since i got HM running 7.71bb/100 at 50nl (5097 hands) and 31.76bb/100 at 25nl (596 hands).
btw what the hell is the old 5ptbb/100 on HM. im confused. plz explain.
ptBB/100 is Big Bets, rather than Big Blinds. 1 Big Bet = 2 Big Blinds, so you're running at 3.85 ptbb at 50nl and 16ptbb at 25nl.
BR sounds good, and your win rate after some bad sessions in there sounds pretty good to me :). I'm running at about 0.01 bb/100 over almost 7k hands :p.
well i played 2 session yday, first i booked a smal win and the second i ended down $65 for the day.
Main hand was getting it in on flop with T9s on JQK flop vs JJ and guy sucked out a K on river (this slightly pissed me off since he was a douche in the chatbox). THe second sesh was one of them sessions where i felt i was just pounded on each hand, i just cudnt do anything vs the floaters, raisers, fish, aggro players. i got very poor hands plus id say ive plenty of leaks to plug.
BR about $1385
I dunno, I kind of feel if you can get through one of those days where you get pounded from pillar to post and the cards just dont come, and you end up not too far down, thats actually not a bad result for the day. Its so easy to spew off chips on those days, that controlling the day well enough to only book a small loss is kind of a decent achievement.
Ok time for some analysis before i go out of office today;
Say typical situation 100bb stacks, we are on BTN vs CO
CO opens 25% of hands from the CO position, 27% equals 22+,A2s+,K8s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,87s,76s,65s,A7o+, K9o+,QTo+,JTo
Its a decent range to use in the CO esp. since im more than likely figured to be a nitTAG player (basically he can greatly discount my participation in the pot if he raises thus he may as well have the BTN)
So im thinking what can we do to take advantage of this guy postfop (im not gonna talk about 3 betting this guy but ill only include hands in my range that choose not to 3bet).
Say we call on BTN with top 15.7% which equals;
99-22,AJs-A2s,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s,AJo-ATo,KTo+,QJo
Now Im calling with a very wide range with the intention of playing back at opponent is certain spots.
So the best way to playback is firstly to attack flops which he c/b's 100% of the time.
ie. Ks 9d 7c for example
He c/b's, Hero ???
Ok so lets figure what hands he will continue with should i raise;
99,77,KTs+,T8s,K9o+
which is 5.7% of his range, so he folds 78% of his range immediately on flop. Ok so this is a great spot for us to bluff raise obv BUT which of our hands are the best bluffing hands. Of course we can bluff with a ton of hands but which holdings are the best to bluff with based on equity to opp's calling range.
Our bluffing range here has 22% equity vs his calling range but lets analysis each holding specifically.
AJs-ATs,A8s-A2s,AJo-ATo have 16% equity
QTs+,JTs,65s,QJo have 22% equity
Other T9s,98s,87s,76s have 22.5% equity
So pretty much most of our calling preflop holdings fair fairly when when our bluffs are called.
On thing ive not discussed is calling with a view to showdown, well lets say that we would call with our strong hands 77 & 99 (obv kinda call since he folds way too often on flop, since he doesnt know that we can still hold strong hands when he raise), all our Kx holdings should call as well as some of our weaker one pair holdings.
Ill make up another one of these posts soon but from this example the fact we have a ton of gutshots and an Ace over works really well for us when we bluff. maybe ill try same holdings with different flop textures.
Played for 3 hours last night again. was up almost 3 buyins at one point then BOOM I won $3.59 or so by the time I finished up. THis whole past week and a half or so Ive really been digging my heels in and almost always trying to claw bakc to BE after dropping buyins fast or i have a massive winning day which only just covers the day befores losses. meh tho at least im BE.
Last night i got QJ beaten by AJ when we both had JJJ, and got 888 beaten by AAA. tbh i played really well last night, i made a few squeezes, light 3bets.
Ok now some further math thoughts (btw im learning as I work this out, nothing pre prepared)
100bb stacks, we open-raise in CO and are 3bet by the BTN.
I prob raise about 25% in CO;
66+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,A7o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo
When im 3bet ill drop in a vacuum most hands except 4.2%;
JJ+,AQs+,AQo
So unknown opp is really sticking it to me here, however if i read that opp 3bets 10% of the time IP then his range is;
88+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,AJo+,KQo
However lets say he can only continue when i 4bet with 3%;
JJ+,AKs,AKo
So he drops 7% of his range.
EDIT: Maybe i remember how to calc now.
We bet $4, he 3bets us $14, I shove $96 remaining stack. (im not gonna get into smaller 4bets)
My EV is:
Win $4+$14+$1.5 (SB+BB) x 70% = $19.50
Potx% im calledx%i win when called
Called and still win ($4+$14+$1.5+$96+$96)x30%x30% = $19.035
Called and lose ($4+$14+$1.5+$96+$96)x30%x70% = -$44.415
Therefore win I 4bet shove with my whole CO range vs his call off range im -$5.88. This is pretty interesting stuff imo, Im fairly surprised this is only slightly -EV.
Ok lets move towards trying to make a BE 4bet shove vs opp's calling range. First lets find X% we need to BE then see what hands correspond to that %.
So again we win when he folds $19.50
We win when called ($211.50)x30%x35% = $22.2
Called and lose ($211.5)x30%x65% = -$41.24
Ok so if we have 35% allin equity we can BE (actually 35% is +$0.46EV) 4bet shove. So which holdings give us 35% equity Allin vs JJ+,AKs,AKo range;
Answer: 88+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,AJo+,KQo TOP 10%
Conclusion: I think Ive learned abit here. If we think opp is 3betting wider than I estimated above then 4bet shove is a profitable play with the holdings I found above. Another weakness here of my calcs is when opp widens his preflop calling range.
Had a quality day yday for a total +$369 at 50nl. Really on track for 100nl very soon. if i can put in just some solid sessions then I shud reach my goal-io!!!
Great news man, GL reaching 100nl very soon!
Sorry havnt kept up much lately, kinda busy and tired, will try to keep up more from now on.
dammit dropped 4 buyins today. 2 were easily my fault for trying some stuff i seen on a DC vid which were fps.
annoyed at myself. this is the first time ive felt spewy in a long time so ill recollect tonight to get my head straight.
Im left with about $1650 whihc is ridicoulous, if i had known i had $1850 b4 i started i may of taken a shot at 100nl. ah well, Ive plenty of time to get some hands in this week so i really expect to be at 100nl soon.
btw im also quilty of playing my D game since i played tired.
only having time to play when you aren't at your peak focus really sucks, but it sounds like this week should be different. gogogrind!
thx Vi
On recollection of last night i think ill watch a DC vid after I play to ensure less spews ;). I made alot more knowingly bad plays than i really tend to ever do. I also want to get into analysing hands alot more, i think its a case in just reviewing my HHs, am i right????
Ok heres a hand i played last night vs about 23/10 Attempt to steal about 20% overal so lets say about 25% on BTN. Lets try analyse this spot.
$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG Rafalus ($50.00)
UTG+1 jorno222 ($112.44)
CO DirtyM0NKEY ($108.46)
BTN Jippa111 ($87.25)
SB Tailgunn3r ($50.25)
BB Hero ($50.00)
Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BB :8s: :8d:
3 folds, Jippa111 raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50
Looking over this again I think I could definitely 3bet here pre. I think i like to call PPs vs very poor players since they are likely to pay better with hands than tagfish like this guy. I opted to call here tho in hindsight i think this is alot better to 3bet.
Flop: :3h: :2h: :ks: ($4.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, Jippa111 bets $3.50, Hero raises to $9, Jippa111 calls $5.50
Quite a dry board, i dont tend to hit flops this much with my calling range in the BB unless ive a set but opp shouldnt know this. So i decide to rep some hands like a FD or a set and put pressure on him, we shouldnt always to calling for set odds. I think my raise is a tad small tho its probably fine since my raise is designed as basically a bluff and holds no value element whatsoever, the cheaper i can make my bluff the better and im just taking adv of his wide preflop range which is basically roughly;
66+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,A7o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo
And he can only continue with (33-22,K9s+,AKo,KTo+) 5.7% of his range so i should profit alot here by c/r'ing him. hmm also i think c/r'ing the amount i did is fairly good since im pretty much crushed when he calls even if he has a FD im behind that with his overcards. So if im looking to just get him to fold flop an amoutn just over min just do it. If i get in same spot again next time i can do same or if i get caught i can do same with a made hand depending on how light he calls.
Turn: :kh: ($22.25, 2 players)
Hero ($39)?
Ok so turn card is pretty sick and probably the worst card. If i had a set or a flush id probably bet here but since i dont and am unsure if he wud fold to a bet i just give up and will do this with a better hand next time r just 3bet him preflop, could be sick if a cal him pre with AA next time esp if he folds alot to 3bets ;)
Just a bit of analysis there, any comments ill try answer/
I think it's best to save these kind of plays (raising K high flops etc) for a more polarized range. (ie: hands that you'll know what to do, if he comes back over the top of you)
If he shoves over your flop c/r, what will you do? If you're faced with a tough decision, that means you're essentially turning your hand (with pretty strong value) into a bluff.
I'd probably like this a lot more with a hand like 44/Ahx or something with less value. Or at least in position!
As played, I either give up turn or barrel turn and river and rep the flush, since the flush card came in.
wud u prefer to just c/f flop then, sucks to c/c here and get barrelled off our hand.
u mention 44 and Ax, thats cool. 44 bluff and Ax bluff has at least some better equity.
btw im pretty sure id fld 88 t a shove anyway but my hand is actually decent that i shudnt be doing anything with that.
I think you should try thinking about 88 and QQ similar in this spot. Would you c/r QQ here? If you did... would you fold to a shove? I think the only real difference between the two is that QQ has better equity when he's shoving FD's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Da GOAT
I think they are pretty similar, cause I don't think he is bet/shoving 99-JJ in this spot that often, nor do I think he'd barrel them if you c/c'd.. unless he put you as a station.
And yah 44 as a bluff, cause I think he bets this flop with all pairs 55+, but most of them will have a hard time continuing. Ax is good for the equity of the ace, and Ahx is good, cause you'll be able to barrel heart turns with more backdoor equity.
thx for thoughts, this sucks but if i c/r'd 88 or QQ here id prob never call a shove since at these stakes id say they wudnt do it often enough for me to be good.
hmm leeme check my equity, btw i think i balls up my earlier long post by not including any suited hands (dammit);
if this is his SHOVING range;
KK+,33-22,AKs,AhQh,AhJh,AhTh,Ah9h,Ah8h,Ah7h,Ah6h,AKo
88 is 16% vs it
QQ is 17% vs it
Id really need a sick read to call a shove imo. c/c seems good tho i can avoid these spots since 3 betting is much better really esp w/QQ
BOOM bankroll of $2030
BOOM +2 buyins at 100nl
Wow, you fire goot!
Boom -ve $130 in 10 minutes this morning. I have a few rules for my own protection, some of which are:
dont play tired.
dont play before coffee.
dont play before shower.
I broke all 3. After brecky and a shower I got back $65 so far though, including stacking the same guy twice in about 2 minutes HU, and a short stacker the very next hand when he joined the table :).
thx man,
last night i hit +$440 at 50nl in 1666 hands for 53bb/100
and +$203 at 100nl in 397 hands for 51bb/100 ;)
played some last night. was up about 4150 then shot down to -$100 when i got some FPS. ive got 21 buyins at 100nl left and im comfortable at the level of difficulty too.
Ill prob end this op thread soon enough, i may think of another op soon since i kinda like keeping a record of stuff.
nice to see an op conclude successfully. Respect.
playing 100nl with only 21 buy-ins would freak me out though, I'm moving down if I drop to 42 buy-ins!!!
Suggestion for next op - Grind 100nl until br = $10k. We can race. I have a bankroll headstart, but you play poker better. Sounds fair. Prop-bet?
maybe but do you have like at least $4200??? im not doing great in a race lol.
21 buyins has a higher risk but im a big tbl selector and happy that was drilled into me.
i probably wud move up b4 $10K tho. prob $8K or shots earlier. im interested tho.
just had a look at your op daven. dont think i cud go up against you. 5Kvs my $2.1K, FR vs 6max. Given your FR you could just grind me out of the bet. No thx ;)
i may just make a 10K thread. Tho ive done that b4 and didnt work out.
fair enough. Regardless, I'll watch the 10k thread and hope we both do well!Quote:
Originally Posted by Da GOAT