QQ vs Unknown

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08-05-2008, 11:05 PM
sweetlemon69

QQ vs Unknown

My turn thought is this. Bet 1/2 for value, and fold of raised. Am I c/c river if called? Scroll wheel eff'd my sizing...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($13.10)
Hero ($9.55)
MP ($8.15)
Button ($8.75)
SB ($11.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
Hero raises to $0.4, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.60) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.2, Button calls $1.20, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($4) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.9, Button ....
08-06-2008, 06:37 AM
Fnord

I learned to check here the hard way.
08-06-2008, 12:19 PM
sweetlemon69

If we check, and V goes for 1/2 -> 2/3, what do we do here? call and c/f the river?
08-07-2008, 06:52 AM
sweetlemon69

Is this standard for everyone? :/
08-07-2008, 10:56 AM
will641

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Originally Posted by sweetlemon69

If we check, and V goes for 1/2 -> 2/3, what do we do here? call and c/f the river?

basically yeah.
08-07-2008, 11:02 AM
d0zer

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Originally Posted by will641

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Originally Posted by sweetlemon69

If we check, and V goes for 1/2 -> 2/3, what do we do here? call and c/f the river?

basically yeah.

I like this against taggier villains, but if a passive villain is firing the turn, they're almost always firing the river also, so as much as a turn c/f would make me hate life...I think a case could be made for it against weak/tight or even loose/passive if they're firing a 1/2 pot or bigger.

Against a lagg, I'm inclined towards a c/c + c/c
08-07-2008, 06:15 PM
silu73

Check/call turn and check/fold most rivers should perhaps be the default line against most unknowns.
08-07-2008, 10:46 PM
nutsinho

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Originally Posted by silu73

Check/call turn and check/fold most rivers should perhaps be the default line against most unknowns.
08-08-2008, 03:18 AM
minSim

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Originally Posted by nutsinho

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Originally Posted by silu73

Check/call turn and check/fold most rivers should perhaps be the default line against most unknowns.

What's the default if we don't have the Q:d: ?
08-08-2008, 04:03 AM
dsaxton

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Originally Posted by minSim

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Originally Posted by nutsinho

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Originally Posted by silu73

Check/call turn and check/fold most rivers should perhaps be the default line against most unknowns.

What's the default if we don't have the Q:d: ?

Probably the same. Having the Qd is just a bonus.
08-08-2008, 04:04 AM
Fnord

Qd makes bet/fold a clear mistake.
08-08-2008, 04:14 AM
minSim

Yeah, I was thinking b/f without the Q:d: and c/c with it, as a default.
But it seems like our b/f range is exploitably large if we do so.

Are we b/c-ing A:d: Ax? or c/c as well?