few hands at 50nl. Basic.

Villy is Loose preflop...passive post, never bluffs. A very below average player whom i believe would have stats at around 40/5/2. I dont really think i can beat anything on this riv, but im priced in. Does anyone ever go with there gut and laydown here?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (5 handed) Ultimate-Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($55.90)
Hero ($76)
UTG ($52.30)
MP ($53.80)
Button ($92.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, MP calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP calls $7.

River: ($24.25) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $12, Hero calls $12.

Final Pot: $48.25


Vill is a fish. You like value on this riv here?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (6 handed) Ultimate-Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($34.50)
Hero ($63.10)
UTG ($26.20)
MP ($52.10)
CO ($77.40)
Button ($85.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($3) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2.

River: ($7) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3.

Final Pot: $13


I can't lay down my hand here against a very bad/loose/aggressive/fish villy. Thoughts?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (6 handed) Ultimate-Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($55.05)
BB ($71.70)
UTG ($39.75)
Hero ($49.15)
CO ($36.25)
Button ($47.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds.

Flop: ($4.25) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.25, CO calls $3.25.

Turn: ($10.75) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8, CO calls $8.

River: ($26.75) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $23.25 (All-In), Hero ...

I'm intrigued by the turn play in hand 2, anyone else raise here looking to protect our hand plus take a free showdown or going for another street of value if called?

Hand 1: Nope I can't lay it down either (unless I'm pretty sure he has JQ or something random like that), I'd raise more preflop though (4-4.5xBB)
Hand 2: well played if you check BB, I'd raise preflop though to discourage him from limping on my BB and then raise the flop if he bets into me.
Hand 3: too complicated spot for me :D ... really dunno what I'd do without any extra reads/past hands. I'd prolly fold though tbh without any other reads than him being super lag fishy.

hand 1: well played, now fold river.

hand 2: also well played, though i like a bigger river bet representing a bluff as your good here most of the time and you know how donks always think big bets are bluffs when the draws miss, bet $6.

hand 3: hmm preety unfortunate spot, you also played this well, but the river is close, if he has a habit of turning made hands into bluffs on scary rivers id call but if youd never seen him do this before id probs just give him the benefit of the doubt and fold, even though it sucks.

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bigspenda73 Posted: Sun, 10 Aug 2008, 6:53am

I'm intrigued by the turn play in hand 2, anyone else raise here looking to protect our hand plus take a free showdown or going for another street of value if called?

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Hrmm. I wasn't really sure that my line here was the most profitable.
Your suggestion seems like a kind of LHE play, and something i never would've thought to do. I would like to hear some thoughts about this.

Hand 1: I like a river fold, but I usually call because I fail at laying down pairs.
Hand 2: River bet is impressive for a 50nl player.
Hand 3: I would shove this river against the opponent described. If I did check it's a snap call.

1. you said it yourself that he is passive and never bluffs. so why would you call. dont say the words "priced in" unless you are thinking of a range for which you are priced in against. If you have a solid read and are not good vs any hands in his perceived range then u shouldnt call getting 100 to 1.

2. this is played very well.

3. absolutely everything got there so even though he likes to spew, its either shove for value or c/f. and its probably c/f.

"dont say the words "priced in" unless you are thinking of a range for which you are priced in against"

Well said.