easy shove, fold or any other plan in 1/2 NL live game

my image was pretty tight and also showed some cheap bluffs occasionally. Villain was a passive semi-loose timid guy who looked like straightforward. A few hands ago, he muttered to himself about how big my overpair must be and folded his 99 to my big c-bet on Q44 flop. I did have KK in that hand.
this time i had QQ on MP3 , raised to $15 to isolate one early loose limper, villain called on CO. Its HeadsUp and our effective stack was like total $350 behind.
flop: 3 3 3 hero bet $25, villain popped up to $75.
whats your game plan NOW?? Fold, 3 bet/shove on this flop or c/bomb on the turn ??

well i have no knowledge of live play but if this guys already shown a tendency to get away from strong (ish) hands id just let him hang himself and check bomb any non king or ace turn as he hes drawing to 2 outs most of the time here. If hes slowplayed kk or aa your screwed regardless. I guess you could just employ zeebo and 4 bet the flop hoping he cant fold his lower boat but id play it a bit slower on the offc hance hes bluffing/overplays smaller pair etc. Im thinking villain has 99-jj here most of the time.

Do whatever you feel would look weaker to him so either 3bet or call.

so long as we get lots of money in any line suits IMO.

you guys probably play too much online no-tell poker :lol:
my solid read is that villain was very timid/passive and often refused to make/call a big bet without a real hand on the flop in a few spots. The majority of his range is TT-AA or quads given my super tight image and his flop huge aggression. Also, I'm pretty sure that he'd rarely raise with 99-TT against a very tight range. How does this change your mindset? We should still call off our whole stack???

call and fold to a large turn bet. if he checks turn, bet/bet.

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call and fold to a large turn bet. if he checks turn, bet/bet.

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I think this is guy is waaaaaaay more likely to play 88-JJ like it is the nuts here and slowplay a better hand

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call and fold to a large turn bet. if he checks turn, bet/bet.

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I think this is guy is waaaaaaay more likely to play 88-JJ like it is the nuts here and slowplay a better hand

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i used nutsinho's line as played, the guy immediately bet another $75 when checked to. So i shoved and lost to a better hand (KK) he slow played preflop.
in my opinion, the $75 bet in 1/2 NL live games really means serious business. God Dammit, i've got to trust my read next time i run into this situation.

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call and fold to a large turn bet. if he checks turn, bet/bet.

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I think this is guy is waaaaaaay more likely to play 88-JJ like it is the nuts here and slowplay a better hand

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i used nutsinho's line as played, the guy immediately bet another $75 when checked to. So i shoved and lost to a better hand (KK) he slow played preflop.
in my opinion, the $75 bet in 1/2 NL live games really means serious business. God Dammit, i've got to trust my read next time i run into this situation.

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Meh I still think you are ahead of his range that he plays like this. 1010 is tough, probably a fold tho

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I think this is guy is waaaaaaay more likely to play 88-JJ like it is the nuts here and slowplay a better hand

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Most live players are sooo passive with showdown value and put you on a big pair here way too often. Also KK flats like almost always and AA flats almost as often. I only see good aggression at the biggest game in the room or with a very easy player read.

Barring better reads, I hate life here.