KK vs fishy

do we just c/f and hate life? villain is 66/30/2. hes been very fishy thus far, calling down with garbage pairs, limping the button pretty much every time he didnt raise. he called the flop and turn pretty quick, and jammed river pretty quick.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (2 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($332)
Button ($334.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, Button calls $10

Flop: ($28) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $20, Button calls $20

Turn: ($68) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $46, Button calls $46

River: ($160) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $140, Hero folds

Total pot: $160 | Rake: $0.50

what makes u think he has a 9? I doubt he's insta shoving 2 pair on a board like this either. I feel like bet folding river is much better. Also I think this would be a good hand to c/r flop to range merger with the 3 bet bluffs that you are giving up on flop. Also it might help to 3 bet to like 20 when you're that deep.

bet more on all streets. c/f the river is fine, i don't see why you'd bet since you have 0 value. If this was deeper and against a good player a river overshove would be so super cool.

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Originally Posted by Massimo

bet more on all streets. c/f the river is fine, i don't see why you'd bet since you have 0 value.

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Why would there be no value if this guy is a mega donk?

Bet folding the river is much better IMO.
You can't really call a shove on that board when you check.

If you bet you can get value off hands you beat, and you can safely fold to a re-raise. If you check call your gonna get value towned by a 9 or 2 pair.

I agree with a lot of things said. Massimo was spot on. Bigger raise preflop, bigger flop bet, bigger turn bet (I would almost be potting it on all streets), this way he knows he cant suck around without worse than a flush draw but he WOULD if he had it with a pair or a straight draw so this way you are getting great value at this point. Once the middle card connected on the river I think the only play there is to check fold really because you know his range and he has to be silly to be bluffing there if he chased you as hard as he did on previous streets. Im a huge donk though I am probably way off to what is right. But by betting the turn so hard especially you know hes not in without a hand like pair/straightdraw/flushdraw. I mean there are a lot of hands that he can have you beat with already or getting ready to try to get lucky and take a big pot off you when he hits on the river. Playing HU people get too focused on bluffing in the real big pots. Play pots with hands that are funky sometimes, it doesn't matter because you want the opponent to think your crazy. Call with the intention of bluffing later and don't always rush the bluff. You have to make him think your pretty sick if he picks off a check-raise bluff by coming over the top and you insta fold. But the whole time, your not focused on the correct play or protecting your hands like mid pair, because your entirely reacting to your opponent. You have to constantly be putting him on hands and climb into his brain to realize how hes feeling at the moment towards you. That way it may seem like nuts when you are playing top pair and losing a small pot because he flopped two and you "slow-played" him. But really, your just feeling as to where HE is at with random plays almost, testing him in small pots. Because this whole time your waiting for the big one where he thinks hes got you and MUST pay you off because you could be bluffing. Let me tell you something....NEVER SHOVE OUT OF POSITION ON THE RIVER WITH A BLUFF HEADS UP ONLINE....It will kill your bankroll many a time if you do because not everyone is as sick as us. Now, sometimes an all in check raise on river is very suitable if you put him on a draw and checked knowing he wouldnt be able to pull it for all his chips but for a portion, then you shove because you know he has nothing (hopefully) and win a massive pot. If your playing a sick opponent, no shame in letting them know they are good and your waiting for fish. Fish will bite on the all ins on the river with two pair and lose to an obvious flush but others will not and like I said, thats where the money is. Good luck.


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