2 pair button vs BB (100nl)

villian is 19.5/15/5.5 over 90 hands, 3bet 8%.

i think calling the flop is best because literally the only hand im behind in his range is QJ. The turn i really wanted to find a fold but felt like he could still be doing this with KJ/KT/JT. idk, i was kind of lost on the turn, and i even wanted to raise the flop until i thought for a sec. comments on flop and turn please.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($100)
Hero (Button) ($181.65)
SB ($102.20)
BB ($108.45)
UTG ($143.55)
MP ($96.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.50, BB raises to $16.50, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($40.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $19.50, Hero calls $19.50

i would probably just fold the turn.

one bit of history i forgot from earlier in the session is that i 3barreled 66 on 45J82r when i was SB and villain was BB when the seat between us was empty. He called down and tank called the river w/ JTo.

Looks g00t.

whats our plan for the river if calling the turn is ok here, which i still dont know if it is? we cant really call a shove can we?

wow, i thought this was at least a semi-interesting hand.

Definately not folding the turn, although the J isn't the best card in the world obviously. Usually when villains make a weakish bet like this after check raising i find them to be on the weaker end of the spectrum.

How big is the stat sample size? If he really is 3betting 8% then I cant really see not going with the hand, as there is basically no hand in his cold calling range that beats us.

Lets see river action.

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Originally Posted by BigLRIP

Definately not folding the turn, although the J isn't the best card in the world obviously. Usually when villains make a weakish bet like this after check raising i find them to be on the weaker end of the spectrum.

How big is the stat sample size? If he really is 3betting 8% then I cant really see not going with the hand, as there is basically no hand in his cold calling range that beats us.

Lets see river action.

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the sample is only over 90 hands. And the only hands im really worried about on the turn are KQ/JQ that im behind, but the small be kind of threw me off.

I shove flop, he's got about the right amount left

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Originally Posted by iopq

I shove flop, he's got about the right amount left

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shoving the flop is way overkill iyam

Why is calling the turn good? Honest question. Like KJ is the only hand we beat, very rarely KT given stats. I guess he could have air here but I mean this seems like a really shitty flop to go apeshit on.

thsese boards have seemingly become worse and worse to bluff at ... you just get called so light since everybody thinks it's a good bluffing opportunity. i wouldn't be surprised to see villain show up w/ something like AJ tbh. I think you are basically always behind on this turn and that it's definitely a fold.

i also think shoving the flop lets him play perfectly against you.

i would have been calling the flop to induce more action on non-J/Q/K turns, and probably flatting all streets.

back in the day, people used to get it in w/ KQ/KJ/JT/QT/AJ/AQ in this spot, so b/3b was the standard line, but people just dont make the mistake of calling off w/ those hands anymore which is why you basically have to play this more passively.

call flop and fold the turn!

call flop, fold turn is def. best here. i spaz leveled myself into a call because it was BU vs BB and villain knew my range was pretty huge OTB. should have folded for sure.

results:

river was a beatiful T and villain shoved the rest of his stack into me. i ran super goot in august.