Turned OESD = shovetastic?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($443.10)
Hero (UTG) ($201.75)
MP ($226.60)
Button ($203)
SB ($237.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($13) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB raises to $28, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($69) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $52, Hero shoves?



Isn't he repping like mid PP?
tons of FE + outssss

any reads

I remember villain muddying around but not being a strong opponent, around 26/16 not a reg

only been at table like 3 orbits

Seems to me like he is repping 2P or better with a set being very likely. With your UTG open, your shove isn't repping a strong range because you have very little nut hands in it.

I call.

just call, i think shovings bad

this seems like a set to me which means there is almost no FE so a shove isnt a phenominal idea. Does anyone know what the percentage win of this combo draw against a set is? Without any fold equity it seems like call would be best here and then you can probably stack the river when the draw hits and doesnt pair the board or fold without losing your whole stack

i stoved some and we are 30% to win at sd. we are get better than 2:1 s call

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Originally Posted by mixchange

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($443.10)
Hero (UTG) ($201.75)
MP ($226.60)
Button ($203)
SB ($237.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($13) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB raises to $28, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($69) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $52, Hero shoves?



Isn't he repping like mid PP?
tons of FE + outssss

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According to Sauce123's 6-max guide for games of "This" magnitude. "Shove all your strongest draws on the turn" THIS is one of your strongest draws.

im pretty sure in that guide we have the initative

If he's not a hand-reader, reg, you might be able to jam here and rep a 5x hand; however, we both know from UTG+1 you might have 56s/55/A5s, so it'd be tough to put you on 5x here seeing how you'd more than likely fold A5s (might not even cbet it), jam 56s on the flop, that leaves just 55 as the only possible 5x hand you could have here. We'd also have to assume that you'd 3bet a set on the flop.

So, this leaves you with floats, and they typically are all flush draws. Perhaps a percentage of the time you call the flop looking to jam a safe turn with QQ+; however, I would think you're more apt to 3bet these as well on the flop.

You're getting the right immediate price and you probably do have some implied odds (especially your straight outs) therefore calling seems better than shoving. I also think his bet-sizing is one committing him to the pot, doesn't seem like a bet/fold type bet-size.

I did call and bricked. I suppose if I had raised flop and he flatting a turn shove would be perfect.