floating flush draws vs weak-tights?

ok, in both hands villain is one of those weak-standard 13-8 types who will think about what cards I might have. Obviously I have a flush draw/set here, right? Thoughts?

Hand 1)
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (CO) ($50)
Button ($65.50)
SB ($48.85)
BB ($157.90)
UTG ($49.40)
UTG+1 ($107.75)
MP1 ($45.35)
MP2 ($50)
MP3 ($25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP2 raises to $2.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($6.25) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($13.25) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $10.50,

Hand 2) Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP2) ($72.45)
MP3 ($52.45)
CO ($49.55)
Button ($27.95)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($99.25)
UTG ($53.80)
UTG+1 ($101.70)
MP1 ($52.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
3 folds, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($9.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6,

Hand 1 I don't really like. You aren't going to get much credit for flushes unless you have pretty loose-ish stats, and villain has tptk, two pair, QQ and AA too much. I would rather raise the flop if I wanted to bully opp of this hand, but I think there are better boards for that.

Hand 2 whaaaa? Preflop? Open limp from MP? I'm pretty sure you are never going to get credit for a set after you just flat his flop bet so if you plan was to bet/raise any club turn and fold all else then the plan is no good. You have got ~6 outs but they're all fairly lame outs, I would rather do this with a hand like AK but again I would do it by raising the flop so you can rep a wider range.

Sklansky LOVES limping pps instead of raising because he doesn't like the idea of calling 3-bets 100BB deep.

and 50nl full ring games are so loose and aggresive that that is a common scenario? What?

hand 1 nope. The Ac is out so what FDs are in your range?
hand 2 I also hate the open limp, he's calling with strong kings and NFDs but I don't hate the bet. Raise flop please.

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Originally Posted by iopq

Sklansky LOVES limping pps instead of raising because he doesn't like the idea of calling 3-bets 100BB deep.

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Listen to the Internet, not Sklanksy. We say raise/fold preflop.