200NL - 3bet pot, river line?

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10-07-2008, 12:34 AM
Keilah

200NL - 3bet pot, river line?

Villain is a tight reg who steals lots and folds to 3bets 87%. Probably sees me as a little spewy this session and possibly in general (since I am :( )

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($218.95)
UTG+1 ($215.30)
MP1 ($37)
MP2 ($894.25)
CO ($200.40)
Button ($200)
SB ($198)
Hero (BB) ($203)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
5 folds, Button raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $22, Button calls $16

Flop: ($45) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $27, Hero calls $27

Turn: ($99) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

River: ($99) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero needs a plan
10-07-2008, 12:47 AM
BankItDrew

bet fold $24 or check call nearly anything
10-07-2008, 12:53 AM
Keilah

Those are the two lines I thought of... you call a PSB?
10-07-2008, 09:08 AM
ATOTHEC101

I prefer a check call here tbh, and yeah id call a psb if he made one.
10-07-2008, 11:37 AM
jimmy44

Re: 200NL - 3bet pot, river line?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101

I prefer a check call here tbh, and yeah id call a psb if he made one.

This^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keilah

Villain is a tight reg who steals lots and folds to 3bets 87%.

Villain would not often bet a PSB on the river with QQ+
10-07-2008, 02:07 PM
Fnord

I hate your line on every street.
10-07-2008, 02:18 PM
mcatdog

if someone is folding to 3-bet 87% then just 3-bet them with trash and call with all your good hands including AA and KK until you see them adjusting
10-07-2008, 02:26 PM
bigspenda73

mcat wins the interwebs again
10-07-2008, 02:56 PM
cardsman1992

Why did you not bet flop?
10-07-2008, 03:31 PM
pokerfan

if i flat call with JJ preflop vs an aggressive TA, i'd play the same like you did in this hand. When you 3 bet preflop, you should usually c-bet big on the flop IMO. In general, i attempt to continue my consistency in my passive or aggressive play. As played, c/c on the river is good.
10-07-2008, 06:52 PM
AFchung

where was the flop cbet?
10-08-2008, 01:02 AM
nutsinho

I dont get why we 3bet preflop but didnt bet the flop; I also don't get why most of you think he will bluff or value bet very thin on this river.
10-08-2008, 05:50 AM
jimmy44

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

I dont get why we 3bet preflop but didnt bet the flop

I agree here, I missed that from the hand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

I also don't get why most of you think he will bluff or value bet very thin on this river.

His line is pretty weak, seems like AK/AQ/88/TT/JJ/QQ. So I would say, let him bluff his AK/AQ on river. If we bet, the only hand that we beat and will call a river bet is TT.
10-08-2008, 06:41 AM
Keilah

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcatdog

if someone is folding to 3-bet 87% then just 3-bet them with trash and call with all your good hands including AA and KK until you see them adjusting

Just because he's folding to 87% of ALL 3bets doesn't mean he's folding 87% of his BU raises to a 3-bet from a reg who 3-bets reasonably often. Sounds like good advice on the surface though.

My thinking was that, on any street, the only value I get from betting is vs TT or 9x, but if I bet and he raises (which he should with draws), I'm folding. So I thought c/c was appropriate.

Fnord, you hate my line? What's yours?