Please do what you all do so good.

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10-26-2008, 12:11 AM
mrhappy333

Please do what you all do so good.

Ok so my first venture into bigger stakes. Villain was 40/12/4
Raising a decent amount.
Besides my minraise Preflop, and small bet on flop? (i have a reason for this but I will tell later)
played?

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Absolute Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($18.95)
SB ($22)
BB ($44.48)
UTG ($24.50)
UTG+1 ($142.60)
MP1 ($52.55)
Hero (MP2) ($103.95)
CO ($35.59)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/kd.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ad.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $2

Flop: ($8.75) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/9h.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/td.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/qh.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.75, UTG+1 raises to $11.50, Hero calls $7.75

Turn: ($31.75) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/js.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $31.75, UTG+1 calls $31.75

River: ($95.25) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/9d.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $95.25, Hero ??
10-26-2008, 12:33 AM
JinxT4

Dumb river. I don't fold, but then again, I suck. I call & pray he shows up with Kx (KQ, KK, etc.).
10-26-2008, 01:01 AM
bigspenda73

Re: Please do what you all do so good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhappy333

Besides my minraise Preflop, and small bet on flop? (i have a reason for this but I will tell later)

pretty sure I want to know now
10-26-2008, 02:37 AM
daven

Re: Please do what you all do so good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhappy333

Besides my minraise Preflop, and small bet on flop? (i have a reason for this but I will tell later)

Please don't take this badly!

Someone recently commented in one of my posted hands that the difficulties faced in these threads are often due to poor play on earlier streets that is described by the poster as "non-standard/i wouldn't normally do this, BUT...." I was guilty of this, the comment was astute.

Anyway, it's hard to advise as played, as this is a situation most here won't ever experience. Your reasoning for the pre-flop and flop play is important, as this will help inform the river decision.
10-26-2008, 03:11 AM
aka_red

As played I would probably call.

However, the real issue is why you decided to play this hand like shit...
10-26-2008, 04:26 AM

3b normal amount, cbet normal amount and you're all in on the turn
10-26-2008, 04:48 AM
kmind

I want to know.

I check behind flop
10-26-2008, 05:34 PM
KeliSobrao

Quote:

Originally Posted by iopq

3b normal amount, cbet normal amount and you're all in on the turn

I don't know about this when we are over 200bb deep...

Make it $7 pre-flop, I think heads-up to a flop c-betting this board is best, bet 3/4 pot there. Bet enough on the turn to ensure the river is a shove for about 3/4 pot.
10-26-2008, 05:49 PM
bigspenda73

I'm typically not cbetting this flop in a 3bet pot, leak?
10-26-2008, 06:36 PM
Miffed22001

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

I'm typically not cbetting this flop in a 3bet pot, leak if i dont have AA-QQ?

fyp. And i agree, but i have a feeling lots wont.
Full ring seems to have changed a bit in these spots recently IMO.
10-26-2008, 06:57 PM
JinxT4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

I'm typically not cbetting this flop in a 3bet pot, leak if i dont have AA-QQ?

fyp. And i agree, but i have a feeling lots wont.
Full ring seems to have changed a bit in these spots recently IMO.

I agree with this b/c he's probably not folding ANY hand that he called a 3b with pf, unless he called with a small pp to setmine. He's probably easily continuing on the flop with AJ, AQ, 99 - AA, & he's probably not even folding AK b/c "gustshot, I call".
10-26-2008, 07:07 PM
Stacks

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeliSobrao

Quote:

Originally Posted by iopq

3b normal amount, cbet normal amount and you're all in on the turn

I don't know about this when we are over 200bb deep...

Make it $7 pre-flop, I think heads-up to a flop c-betting this board is best, bet 3/4 pot there. Bet enough on the turn to ensure the river is a shove for about 3/4 pot.

Can you elaborate on why you believe cbetting this flop is best? I would also check behind here.
10-26-2008, 07:27 PM
bigspenda73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

I'm typically not cbetting this flop in a 3bet pot, leak if i dont have AA-QQ?

fyp. And i agree, but i have a feeling lots wont.
Full ring seems to have changed a bit in these spots recently IMO.

yea specifically meant this hand esp. with bd NFD

we can still bet the turn and get underpairs to fold
10-26-2008, 09:18 PM
Fnord

Re-raise more pre-flop because this guy is retarded and you want to get the SPR down.

Mixed feelings on the flop bet, but on such a wet board I think you need to bet bigger if you bet at all.
11-01-2008, 09:34 AM
Technooo

Explain to me the thought process here where we're not calling this with the nut end of the str8. I put scruffball on a set of 9's, 9's full or a higher full pair is also an option or quads, and also a K high straight from a pair. I think you win this so much and the fact that the pot is laying you 2:1 make this a retardedly easy call.

Preflop 37o has odds to call you if he knows you have AK, chrysanthemums. Bet like a man, triple it.

Your good options on the flop are check/call, check/raise, or bet more than less than half the pot. I don't want to berate you but you're pulling out value here.
11-01-2008, 04:01 PM
mrhappy333

I knew the re raise Preflop was bad. (Iwas piising out the rear slider door when this came around to me, I almost timed out and I was able to hit the min raise button)

The bet on the flop, I was looking to keep the pot small with my gutshot.
I figured the pot size bet on turn was good?
11-04-2008, 08:12 PM
JinxT4

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhappy333

The bet on the flop, I was looking to keep the pot small with my gutshot.

You don't see how this could be bad? I mean, maybe a donk might not notice that weak bet = weak hand, but you might want to think about how easy this might make you to read.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhappy333

I figured the pot size bet on turn was good?

Hard to make a mistake when you have the nuts. :wink: So ya, I think the turn psb is good (your best play in the hand imo).
11-04-2008, 10:12 PM
kmind

You seem to only be thinking about only your hand. Firing pot on turn is fine but again flop is a big issue. I agree with the checks but if I do bet I'm firing ~pot.
11-15-2008, 05:53 PM
mrhappy333

OK,
I called and Villian Had :qc: :qs:

sux.......dropped down a level again.
11-15-2008, 06:34 PM
a500lbgorilla

I wouldn't cbet this flop with AK but it's meh. I would prolly shove over his raise. As played, I like the turn play and river play assuming you don't fold.