Serious Life Beat

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10-30-2008, 11:51 AM
spoonitnow

Serious Life Beat

So a while back when ISF interviewed me on FTR or whatever my girlfriend's mom Googled my name and came across it and discovered that I play poker rah rah rah and decided to tell the entire family. One particular aunt of my girlfriend has asked me about it every time I've seen her since then (like February of this year). This aunt is fairly well-off, her husband is some big car salesman manager type person and it's not like they need money. So she just sent me the following e-mail:

"Will you teach me so i can make some bucks? [My son] hit a deer and the car is damaged i need the funds!!!!"

What's my play?
10-30-2008, 12:00 PM
d0zer

Stick it in her pooper obviously.
10-30-2008, 12:03 PM
wesrman

Do you get along with her???
10-30-2008, 12:05 PM
spoonitnow

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrman

Do you get along with her???

I guess. I'm limited with creative options here because I can't mess up the relationship my girlfriend has with her since she's like one of the only people in my girlfriend's family that she gets along with/cares about.
10-30-2008, 12:06 PM
jyms

BE honest and explain winrates and BR requirements. Then start explaining some of the math and when her head explodes it's pretty much a dead subject.
10-30-2008, 12:11 PM
wesrman

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrman

Do you get along with her???

I guess. I'm limited with creative options here because I can't mess up the relationship my girlfriend has with her since she's like one of the only people in my girlfriend's family that she gets along with/cares about.

Then just teach her a few easy things like simple ways to figure out her odds and let her play until she goes on tilt and loses all her money and or she runs real good and thinks shes better than you. Either way she will prolly give up fast.
10-30-2008, 12:25 PM
spoonitnow

Yeah but she's got kids to fucking raise she doesn't need to be donking it up then turn into a gambling degen and blame me.
10-30-2008, 12:33 PM
Warpe

if she's an FTR lurker then you just registered an epic fail
10-30-2008, 12:56 PM
gabe

"i tried teaching ___ a few months ago and they lost $2000... i dont think im a good teacher"
10-30-2008, 12:57 PM
d0zer

Just tell her how much work, time and discipline it actually takes to become a winning player. Tell her how the lifestyle is conducive to back, neck, and wrist problems from sitting for so many hours. Tell her the annoyances of being associated with all the negative stigmas of problem gamblers. And finally just tell her the horrors of negative variance.

If that doesn't kill her pipe dreams then god help her..
10-30-2008, 01:00 PM
wesrman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

"i tried teaching ___ a few months ago and they lost $2000... i dont think im a good teacher"

Or they just ran bad, or they didnt apply what you were teaching them correctly.
10-30-2008, 01:20 PM
ponyboy

Why not tell her to just stake you? She won't know normal staking guidelines and you can pay her like 10% of whatever you win. She'll think it's free money.
10-30-2008, 01:26 PM
a500lbgorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

"i tried teaching ___ a few months ago and they lost $2000... i dont think im a good teacher"

Or they just ran bad, or they didnt apply what you were teaching them correctly.

She doesn't understand that. She'll just register the loss and the honesty and brush the idea aside.
10-30-2008, 01:28 PM
wesrman

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

"i tried teaching ___ a few months ago and they lost $2000... i dont think im a good teacher"

Or they just ran bad, or they didnt apply what you were teaching them correctly.

She doesn't understand that. She'll just register the loss and the honesty and brush the idea aside.

I wasnt talking about the aunt. I was replying to Gabe about how the person he taught lost $2000.
10-30-2008, 01:35 PM
GatorJH

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponyboy

Why not tell her to just stake you? She won't know normal staking guidelines and you can pay her like 10% of whatever you win. She'll think it's free money.

This is actually a pretty good idea. Explain it to her as if she is buying stock in your poker skills.
10-30-2008, 01:41 PM
a500lbgorilla

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Originally Posted by wesrman

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

"i tried teaching ___ a few months ago and they lost $2000... i dont think im a good teacher"

Or they just ran bad, or they didnt apply what you were teaching them correctly.

She doesn't understand that. She'll just register the loss and the honesty and brush the idea aside.

I wasnt talking about the aunt. I was replying to Gabe about how the person he taught lost $2000.

gabe was thinking up an excuse. obv everyone he teaches is +100k lifetime
10-30-2008, 01:49 PM
Ash256

Start with gabe's line, then go all aspergers on her and talking about all the intricate EV stuff you know (but not with any logical sense of order)
10-30-2008, 01:59 PM
BankItDrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpe

if she's an FTR lurker then you just registered an epic fail

This x 100

+ tell the truth
10-30-2008, 02:05 PM
Ragnar4

How about explaining to her that becoming a winner is not an overnight thing. The amount of time and work it would take for her to become a winning player, and pay off her A) Accrued debts and B) the deer accident, the car will have long been fixed since.
10-30-2008, 02:15 PM
ProZachNation

Stake her $40 and let her double up through Slevin at 2nl?

ZING
10-30-2008, 02:17 PM
flomo

teach her

what she does with the knowledge is her fault
10-30-2008, 02:58 PM
spoonitnow

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

"i tried teaching ___ a few months ago and they lost $2000... i dont think im a good teacher"

I like this
10-30-2008, 02:59 PM
Stacks

Your not a poker coach. Your a life coach!
10-30-2008, 03:29 PM
OhBollocks

Tell her to join #flopturnriver :lol:
10-30-2008, 03:48 PM
frosst

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Originally Posted by OhBollocks

Tell her to join #flopturnriver :lol:

lmao winnar!!
10-30-2008, 04:09 PM
aka_red

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhBollocks

#flopturnriver
10-30-2008, 04:31 PM
spoonitnow

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Your not a poker coach. Your a life coach!

You're*
10-30-2008, 06:08 PM
Ragnar4

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProZachNation

Stake her $40 and let her double up through Slevin at 2nl?

ZING

Shhh! That's my stratemgy!
10-30-2008, 06:51 PM
swiggidy

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Your not a poker coach. Your a life coach!

You're*

nice

I like the honesty. Just explain a realistic hourly rate 2 tabling 2NL.
10-30-2008, 07:12 PM
Halv

ship her $x to pay for the repairs, then siihp
10-30-2008, 07:20 PM
DaddyDeez

What did she think you did for money before she found out u were the greatest ssnl reg?

I would just explain to her how much commitment is needed, and how long it takes and then let her start playing 2nl for a day or 2 until she quits.
10-30-2008, 08:05 PM
IowaSkinsFan

Lol sorry :(
10-30-2008, 09:18 PM
spoonitnow

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

Lol sorry :(

lol it's alright, the only thing her mom personally said about it was that "he didn't have to use the f-word"
10-30-2008, 09:29 PM
thizzSantaCruz

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

Lol sorry :(

lol it's alright, the only thing her mom personally said about it was that "he didn't have to use the f-word"

im missing something
10-30-2008, 09:32 PM
bjsaust

I was going to suggest pointing to her to FTR, but then she'd read all your posts and that could be even worse...
10-30-2008, 09:34 PM
bjsaust

Wes, you fail at the internet.
10-30-2008, 10:13 PM
wesrman

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Originally Posted by bjsaust

Wes, you fail at the internet.

LOL there are many that would disagree with you. You must not be paying attention.

EDIT: Plus my way will make it look like hes helping her, but she prolly wont become a degen. Spoon wins.
10-31-2008, 09:25 AM
Silly String

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Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

Lol sorry :(

lol it's alright, the only thing her mom personally said about it was that "he didn't have to use the f-word"

im missing something

Reference to the OP where Spoon says ISF's interview caused an epic chain of events thereby causing him much pain and consternation.
10-31-2008, 09:45 AM
shazbox

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

"i tried teaching wesrman a few months ago and he still gets beat by moneymaker"
10-31-2008, 10:10 AM
oskar

If she seems like a stable person, send her the link to the beginners digest, make her put a post-it on her screen that sais "BRM OR BUSTO", and tell her to start 2NL with a minimum deposit.
Tell her to look up Slevin.
10-31-2008, 11:01 AM
Stacks

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Originally Posted by oskar

If she seems like a stable person, send her the link to the beginners digest, make her put a post-it on her screen that sais "ROBUSTO OR BUSTO", and tell her to start 2NL with a $3k deposit.
Tell her to look up Slevin, and to always be reluctant to concede that your poker strategy is seriously flawed if losing.
10-31-2008, 11:16 AM
wesrman

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Originally Posted by shazbox

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

"i tried teaching shazbox a few months ago and he still gets beat off by moneymaker"

FYP.
10-31-2008, 01:53 PM
bigred

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

"i tried teaching ___ a few months ago and they lost $2000... i dont think im a good teacher"

Or they just ran bad, or they didnt apply what you were teaching them correctly.

I think this is a huuuge fail.
11-01-2008, 11:48 AM
boost

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

"i tried teaching ___ a few months ago and they lost $2000... i dont think im a good teacher"

when you coached me like two years ago I made 8k that month, and I started at 25nl. So either you are a good teacher or WEEEE SWONGS!
11-01-2008, 01:12 PM
gabe

dude i was giving him an excuse to tell her, not talking about my own experiences

sheesh
11-01-2008, 02:38 PM
a500lbgorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

dude i was giving him an excuse to tell her, not talking about my own experiences

sheesh

Is this a level?
11-01-2008, 02:39 PM
a500lbgorilla

Let's see how long we can go before someone makes this post:

Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

dude i was giving him an excuse to tell her, not talking about my own experiences

sheesh

Is this a level?
11-01-2008, 02:39 PM
bigred

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

dude i was giving him an excuse to tell her, not talking about my own experiences

sheesh

Is this a level?

Is THIS a level?
11-01-2008, 02:41 PM
a500lbgorilla

you need to stop multitabling FTR
11-01-2008, 02:43 PM
bigred

I do it for the fpps
11-01-2008, 02:45 PM
wesrman

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred

I do it cuz i has no life

FYP.

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