Barreling a gutshot

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11-02-2008, 02:02 PM
minSim

Barreling a gutshot

Villain 22/2/1.2 over 201 hands. (50% ftcb).

Is my gutshot + Q enough here to be barreling this most of the time?
Are there rivers that I miss that I can 3barrel profitably??

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer Game#21696109411

SB ($22.40)
BB ($10.20)
UTG ($5.75)
UTG+1 ($26)
Hero ($26)
BTN ($23.45)

Dealt to Hero 9:club:Q:diamond:
fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.85, call, fold, fold,

FLOP ($2.05) 4:club:T:diamond:K:spade:
Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50,

TURN ($5.05) 4:club:T:diamond:K:spade:3:club:
Hero bets $3.75
11-02-2008, 02:18 PM
lolpwnt

I think the most important question here is what hands call this flop that will fold to this turn card.
11-02-2008, 02:56 PM
thizzSantaCruz

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolpwnt

I think the most important question here is what hands call this flop that will fold to this turn card.

exactly, im gonna say none.
11-02-2008, 03:49 PM
griffey24

I probably triple barrel this, or c/f the turn here.

I think lots of hands like AQ/AJ/QJ/Tx will be inclined to call one or two bets but will fold to a triple.
11-02-2008, 03:58 PM
nutsinho

I c/f more often than bet, but its certainly wrong to say hands don't fold to a strong two barrel here. Certainly like 88/AJo are going to call one and fold to two, and even hands as strong as T9s/JTs are hard pressed to call again.
11-03-2008, 03:22 AM
minSim

Quote:

Originally Posted by griffey24

I probably triple barrel this, or c/f the turn here.

I think lots of hands like AQ/AJ/QJ/Tx will be inclined to call one or two bets but will fold to a triple.

This was my reasoning as well.

Seems like I have to do work on triple barreling. At the moment in about 70% of the cases I consider doubling I have a feeling I should follow it up with a river bet. But yet it's still more a feeling then hard knowledge.

Do you agree that when considering double barreling, it's quite often a choice between c/f turn or tripple barreling?
11-03-2008, 06:08 PM
jackvance

Another option is to check turn and bet river so they'll fold their missed drawish or speculative hand.. although this only works if villain isn't too aggressive otherwise he'll bet the turn.
11-03-2008, 06:16 PM
Da GOAT

we arent folding out anything that calls on flop.
11-03-2008, 08:41 PM
griffey24

Quote:

Originally Posted by minSim

Quote:

Originally Posted by griffey24

I probably triple barrel this, or c/f the turn here.

I think lots of hands like AQ/AJ/QJ/Tx will be inclined to call one or two bets but will fold to a triple.

This was my reasoning as well.

Seems like I have to do work on triple barreling. At the moment in about 70% of the cases I consider doubling I have a feeling I should follow it up with a river bet. But yet it's still more a feeling then hard knowledge.

Do you agree that when considering double barreling, it's quite often a choice between c/f turn or tripple barreling?

I think this is very read based. Some players call tons of flops and fold turns. Others call ton of double barrels and fold rivers. I definitely find the "fold to flop/turn/river" stats in HEM pretty helpful in figuring out who to double or triple barrel.