100nl why we are not cbetting overpair in multiway 3b pot?

shortie is obv fish..
villian is tag etc

reasons why we do/do not cbet here
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Board:
Harty56 (Button): $55.10
Iwind (SB): $99
CarnegieKid (BB): $118.15
jdogs87 (UTG): $105.60
Infurnal (UTG+1): $121.10
wems (CO): $287.70

Dealt to wems Q:heart: Q:diamond:

Pre-flop:
(1 folds), Infurnal raises to $4, wems raises to $14, Harty56 calls $14, (2 folds), Infurnal calls $10

Flop: ($43.50) 5:club: 6:diamond: 9:diamond: (3 Players)
Infurnal checks, [color=red]wems ...

I believe we do not cbet because if shortie shoves and tag calls then we are commited and more than likely behind

also by checking here, I believe this gives us position on both players... since we get to see what the button does and also the TAG player before we have to put any more $ in the pot...

I believe we cbet because either has JJ/TT a ton and sc's/combodraws. And I'm calling a shove because the pot is big and we're still ahead often/enough, imo.

so if button shoves and tag calls do you think we are ahead often enough?

bet to cover shorty and call a shove

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Originally Posted by vaks

so if button shoves and tag calls do you think we are ahead often enough?

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It's the toughest scenario, but I don't think villain should call many hands. What do you think his calling range is in that scenario? 87 alone?
(and even then I think he should probably shove because the pot is big and it looks weaker than calling).

And because he might have JJ/TT sometimes in that case, I'd just shove.
(not feeling very happy about it of course, but still thinking it would be marginally profitable)

well people at 100nl play very bad
also if button shoves and tag calls then im going to probably put tag on the stone cold nuts, or similar hands
maybe TT+ also

on a side note, a lot of people like to call 3b with pps even oop at 100nl... its a hudge leak but i see lots and lots of people doing it

i think c-betting here is correct. we are happy to get it in vs shortie, and villain has KK/AA like never, unless hes a total retard. do you have any stats on villain? those could be pretty useful, particularly vpip/raise%