200NL: AA: Common difficult spot vs TAG

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11-12-2008, 03:40 AM
jimmy44

200NL: AA: Common difficult spot vs TAG

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (10 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($297.50)
UTG+2 ($211.75)
MP1 ($222.65)
Hero (MP2) ($200)
MP3 ($147)
CO ($40)
Button ($200)
SB ($245)
BB ($38)
UTG ($45.33)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
4 folds, Hero raises $8, 2 folds, Button calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($19) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $15, Button raises to $45, Hero calls $30

Turn: ($109) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero ???

villain is standard TAG (14/12/5). No significant history between us.
To make this hand easier, I should have raised more Pre ($10/$12) so that the pot at turn would be $120-130 and I could just push or c/rai when FD missed.
However, in this spot, what do you do?
My feeling is that:
c/rai > b/f > b/c > c/c

Any comments?

Thanks!
11-12-2008, 05:43 AM
Da GOAT

flop is action is odd ;)
11-12-2008, 05:48 AM
jimmy44

Thanks!
Somehow the converter screwed the hand ... I correct it now!
11-12-2008, 10:30 AM
nutsinho

Re: 200NL: AA: Common difficult spot vs TAG

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy44

To make this hand easier, I should have raised more Pre ($10/$12) !

are you freaking serious?
11-12-2008, 10:53 AM
Alexos

Re: 200NL: AA: Common difficult spot vs TAG

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy44

To make this hand easier, I should have raised more Pre ($10/$12) !

are you freaking serious?

:?
11-12-2008, 10:55 AM
jimmy44

Re: 200NL: AA: Common difficult spot vs TAG

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy44

To make this hand easier, I should have raised more Pre ($10/$12) !

are you freaking serious?

I've been thinking of easier ways to play this hand.
If we raise to $12 and button calls, then the pot will be $27 and the SPR will be about 7, so we would commit with this villain on this flop/turn. Here the turn would easily be a push or crai. The turn pot would be something like $127 (if we bet $20 on flop and villain raises 3x) and we would have $138 left.
With the $8 raise we got an SPR or around 9.5, which gives too much the possibility for villain to bluff us off the pot.

Nutsinho, knowing nothing more than these stats about villain, how would you play this?
11-12-2008, 10:55 AM
jimmy44

Hmmm ... is my reasoning completely off?
11-12-2008, 01:01 PM
pokerfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy44

Hmmm ... is my reasoning completely off?

i dont think there's much difference between a SPR of 7 and 9.5. In live games, you can easily achieve your targeted SPR of 4 or even lower when you raise to $12-16 preflop and got a few loose callers. As played, i like c/rai against very aggressive TAGs and c/f vs passive ones. c/rai in these situations vs FR standard players is never good in my experience.