I want to fold two pair 50NL

UTG is a HUGE fish playing 80/12/1 etc. making this seem like an easyyyyy flop bet but I am dumb. CO is a 16/11/4.5 over 70 hands. He 3bets 6.5% of the time. Again, this makes flop seem like an even easier bet. Regardless, I didn't. Flop is so dry. Turn shouldn't have helped CO imo so wtf can he be raising here with? It's rare to see a complete air bluff multiway in a raised pot with a bad player (calling station) at these stakes. I was calling probably any river bet like 2/3 down but didn't want to call a shove. Should I just fold turn? Is this a fist pump call/fold what? He's repping a set and only a set imo.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($50.45)
BB ($50)
UTG ($49)
Hero (MP) ($66.65)
CO ($51.75)
Button ($127.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, CO calls $2.25, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($7.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5, CO raises to $14, 1 fold, Hero calls $9

River: ($35.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $35.50 (All-In)

Meh. i dont understand what was going through your head when you checked the flop.

I don't either. I tried to at least explain that I can't explain.

i think u riverd him. Im not letting go of this.

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Originally Posted by kmind

UTG is a HUGE fish playing 80/12/1 etc

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Originally Posted by nutsinho

Meh. i dont understand what was going through your head when you checked the flop.

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Yaah what nuts said. This is always always a bet, and I bet pretty big too.

But given how fishy UTG is, I find it pretty weird that CO wouldn't bet a strong hand on the flop. So that being said, I can't imagine why A2/A7 wouldn't bet this flop, and those are the hands we're value towning on river.

Part of me gets this weird feeling that he had KKK, and slowplayed pre to keep the fish in...

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Part of me gets this weird feeling that he had KKK, and slowplayed pre to keep the fish in...[/quote]


yeah this seems really likely. unfortunately its v hard to put him on anything else so i sort of want to call even though i feel so beat.

if he's a thinker at all he'll know you should have cbet the flop with a strong ace so it's very likely he spazzed out over a $7 pot on the turn and couldn't help himself on the river.

or, like has been said, has teh KK

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Originally Posted by bigspenda73

if he's a thinker at all he'll know you should have cbet the flop with a strong ace so it's very likely he spazzed out over a $7 pot on the turn and couldn't help himself on the river.

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I know each player is different but from my experience almost no one at this level will bluff here or think like this. But that's just me generalizing.

I call hes repping KK as said earlier and thats it.

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Originally Posted by kmind

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Originally Posted by bigspenda73

if he's a thinker at all he'll know you should have cbet the flop with a strong ace so it's very likely he spazzed out over a $7 pot on the turn and couldn't help himself on the river.

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I know each player is different but from my experience almost no one at this level will bluff here or think like this. But that's just me generalizing.

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i would have done this 3 months ago in these same games.

he's repping too thin a range not to look this up, and theres no reason he wouldnt bet the flop with a set because he knows the fish will call the majority of the time.

But would you have carried through on the river?
Personally, I think he has 22, 77 or is overplaying KQ. I call given your current read and call it a cooler. He doesn't have AA, KK or AK here if 6.5% is close with an opportunity to look like a squeezer IP.

Definitely smells like KK to me. I don't know what you can beat here.

i mean, if you fold AQ here, do you also fold Jack Ten? Because i think that would be a sick fold seeing as how Jack Ten is the nuts. His line is so strong though that I certainly couldnt blame you. If i made folds like that more often Id be wearing a gold bracelet right now. A question you make ask yourself is "Is nutsinho wearing a gold bracelet right now?" Well, I regret to inform you that the answer is maybe. I might be wearing a gold bracelet right now. But if I am, it may or not may be related to winning a tournament of no limit texas holdem. Sigh. Fuck my life.

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it was only like a $300k difference nuts, I'm sure you'll get over it