50NL - AA

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12-10-2008, 04:59 AM
BigLRIP

50NL - AA

I think this is standard,

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($65.40)
MP ($49.65)
Hero (Button) ($50.50)
SB ($21)
BB ($28.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $4, UTG calls $3

Turn: ($12.75) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $11, Hero calls $11

River: ($34.75) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $33.50 (All-In)

ya?
12-10-2008, 05:10 AM
nutsinho

looks good, betting small on the river could possibly be better
12-10-2008, 08:37 AM
a500lbgorilla

i would disagree, but nutsinho already said it was good and he's rich.
12-10-2008, 09:35 AM
nutsinho

hmmm what dont you like? im interested
12-10-2008, 09:49 AM
a500lbgorilla

haha, I was just kidding because you know this thread dies once you say it looks good. Raise the flop for value. It'd be foolish to make him fold his worse hands on the turn and we can't fold, shove river for value. He probably folds his crazy air hand.

Would have been a more interesting hand if he donk/3bets the flop
12-10-2008, 09:53 AM
bode

looks fine. more draws/crap in his range than Kx hands. The turn decision is more interesting than the river imo.
12-10-2008, 10:11 AM
a500lbgorilla

shoving turn is alright, calling is alrght.
12-10-2008, 01:51 PM
BigLRIP

Oops forgot reads in OP. Villain is aggro fish over a small sample, he check raised me once when I had isolated him and I folded after using my time bank for like 10 seconds. I think these reads make it even more standard..?
12-10-2008, 02:36 PM
a500lbgorilla

yah, you basically rock.

I'd lol if he turns over 8:diamond: 9:diamond: because that's the only hand that beats you really.
12-10-2008, 08:00 PM
meeloche

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

shoving turn is alright, calling is alrght.

I think calling is a lot better actually especially since he's an aggro fish. He can't bluff anymore if you ship the turn so calling lets him shove the river since he's oop. Once he doesn't I don't think we have enough behind to bet small to try and induce so I would just shove. I don't think he calls any more often for 20 than 30.
12-10-2008, 09:07 PM
Toadstool

betting smaller on river is good, especially given your reads, as it allows him to shove some missed flush draw.

I like $5 and call a raise.
12-10-2008, 09:26 PM
meeloche

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toadstool

betting smaller on river is good, especially given your reads, as it allows him to shove some missed flush draw.

I like $5 and call a raise.

In theory I love this. I haven't incorporated it into my game yet though cause I guess I don't trust that he'll jam as often as he calls a shove. The thing that worries me about this is when he snaps it off with like A10. I definitely think he could talk himself into calling a shove with it though. I'm on the fence about it though.
12-11-2008, 12:34 AM
bode

Quote:

Originally Posted by meeloche

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toadstool

betting smaller on river is good, especially given your reads, as it allows him to shove some missed flush draw.

I like $5 and call a raise.

In theory I love this. I haven't incorporated it into my game yet though cause I guess I don't trust that he'll jam as often as he calls a shove. The thing that worries me about this is when he snaps it off with like A10. I definitely think he could talk himself into calling a shove with it though. I'm on the fence about it though.

i just dont think stuff like this is worth worrying about at nl50. If he's some super agg monkey then maybe its waranted sometimes, but shoving is going to be better off long term.
12-11-2008, 11:15 AM
Toadstool

Quote:

Originally Posted by bode

Quote:

Originally Posted by meeloche

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toadstool

betting smaller on river is good, especially given your reads, as it allows him to shove some missed flush draw.

I like $5 and call a raise.

In theory I love this. I haven't incorporated it into my game yet though cause I guess I don't trust that he'll jam as often as he calls a shove. The thing that worries me about this is when he snaps it off with like A10. I definitely think he could talk himself into calling a shove with it though. I'm on the fence about it though.

i just dont think stuff like this is worth worrying about at nl50. If he's some super agg monkey then maybe its waranted sometimes, but shoving is going to be better off long term.

Whether it's better or worse is going to depend on the opponent, it's just another option available.

If you do get called, then you can use a similar line in the future for a really cheap bluff when you have two diamonds in this spot.
12-11-2008, 11:25 AM
bigred

I think I'm half potting river to get his mid pair to call. Shove will scare too many players away.