all in on river?

-villain is 25/20/2.4 over about 400 hands.
-could be variance but according to his pop up stats he hasnt 4-bet yet? could be he just never is 4-betting ipo and is running bad oop
-since he is a thinking player it wouldnt be a good shove here right? he could be slowplaying a straight, which i somewhat doubt. i just dont think hes stacking off with QJ/AQ/KQ. all that being said i think i have the best hand a ton here, so is it still a shove?

No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($139)
Button ($99.55)
SB ($403.60)
Hero (BB) ($496)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
2 folds, SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $36, SB calls $24

Flop: ($72) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $44, SB calls $44

Turn: ($160) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $108, SB calls $108

River: ($376) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero

I think a shove is decent but I don't know shit. The only 10 he shows up here is Q 10s and that's not often at all. It's kind of a bluff though and I;m somewhat worried about weird JJ passive line but again Im drunk somewhat

I don't really think he's gonna call a shove with anything you beat, even though you're probably ahead here very often when he checks the river. You'd have to have a pretty crazy image to get called by AJ I think..

this ain't a "only calls when your beat". will wants to know if there is any value in betting. We know he calls with T but does he have anything else that will call. You can't put this guy squarely on QT, I don't think QT calls a three bet nor just calls a flop Cbet. No way your betting puts you on straight as well, so some 2pr's may call putting you on exactly 2pr. If you think you can fold out any hands that beat you, then shove. But I think it's a check, because I wouldn't fold any set with this line if I was him.

tough one, i think that any reasonable player would have a hard time not leading a straight on this board (who would want to risk having a hand like yours check behind?). Other factors to consider:

- a little metagame because its an aggressive move
- He's rarely calling you with worse
- you do value town yourself sometimes against QQ

So, probably shove but i doubt it matters much (aka, this is really close)

he already called you 108 in the river. I would do the all in any way. I bet he got two pairs.

i think its close and i dont mind either play

yeah, i ended up checking back river. he had QJcc and im 99.99% positive he never looks me up there.

If you think he has a lesser two pair, and is unlikely to look you up, then how about a little gay bet of ~$50?

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Originally Posted by Toadstool

If you think he has a lesser two pair, and is unlikely to look you up, then how about a little gay bet of ~$50?

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thats a good idea. he probably cry calls for that.

Was gonna suggest the same thing, do we call if he shoves?