50nl.... a few hands for review.

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02-05-2009, 11:23 PM
Im_new

50nl.... a few hands for review.

Standard?
Villian is 32/10.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($57.60)
UTG ($50)
Hero (MP) ($51.40)
CO ($11.70)
Button ($47.50)
SB ($58.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, BB calls $2

Turn: ($9.25) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($27.25) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

Total pot: $38.25 | Rake: $1.80

I've been trying this on the turn... I'm not sure how I feel about it...
Villian is running 20/8.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($52.10)
UTG+1 ($56.20)
MP1 ($54.55)
MP2 ($31.55)
CO ($50.30)
Hero (Button) ($51.15)
SB ($7)
BB ($76.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($5.75) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $2, Hero raises to $6, MP1 calls $4

River: ($17.75) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $6, Hero folds

Total pot: $17.75 | Rake: $0.85

I end up in these situations often, and I'm never quite sure how to play it preflop. Even if the hand is 99 or TT and I flop an overpair, I'm never sure what to do. This has always been a leak in my game, I feel.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($50.25)
BB ($50)
UTG ($98.10)
UTG+1 ($48.50)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($70.20)
Hero (CO) ($47.75)
Button ($50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $1, Button raises to $4, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $3, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($12.75) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $3, Hero folds, Button calls $3

Total pot: $18.75
02-05-2009, 11:28 PM
badgers

1) raise flop bigger bet turn bigger shove river

2) wtf call river also raise turn bigger and i would probs raise flop anyway

3 fine
02-06-2009, 12:17 AM
ATOTHEC101

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgers

1) raise flop bigger bet turn bigger shove river

2) wtf call river also raise turn bigger and i would probs raise flop anyway

3 fine
02-06-2009, 01:24 AM
Deanglow

hand 2 just call this down most of the time raising anywhere is stupid/bad
02-06-2009, 01:44 AM
Stacks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deanglow

hand 2 just call this down most of the time raising anywhere is stupid/bad

this.

I'm interested to hear your reasoning for raising badgers. About the best reason I can come up with is villains bet sizing is relatively small, but I don't see this as enough. I don't see too much in villains range that a raise will get value from.
02-06-2009, 02:01 AM
BankItDrew

hand 1: fine

hand 2: I don't see anything wrong with raising the turn. It's a great play to take control. In this case, donk bet river and now we call.

hand 3: fine
02-06-2009, 02:02 AM
Im_new

50nl AA

Should I just shove the flop?

Here is my thought process for only calling the shorty's shove. If i shove the flop, I'll push out hands that I beat, like 8x, 55-77, and maybe 99-TT... (right?) If the shorty somehow turns over a 4 after I shove, I'm screwed. That's why I want a side pot. By only calling here, I plan to shove over his turn bet (or raise/call shove etc). This way, I think I earn more value from hands that I beat.

Is my thought process flawed?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($51.75)
MP2 ($13.15)
MP3 ($97.80)
CO ($50)
Button ($19.70)
SB ($31.10)
BB ($59.80)
UTG ($59.25)
Hero (UTG+1) ($59.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2.50, 5 folds, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($8.25) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players)
UTG bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, MP2 raises to $10.65 (All-In), UTG calls $9.15, Hero calls $9.15

Turn: ($40.20) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG bets $3.50, Hero raises to $31, UTG raises to $46.10 (All-In), Hero calls $15.10

River: ($132.40) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $132.40 | Rake: $3
02-06-2009, 02:03 AM
Im_new

whoa, I meant to post this as its own thread.... sorry...
02-06-2009, 02:08 AM
Im_new

well, since its here now, what do you guys think?
02-06-2009, 02:14 AM

well there aren't any draws to worry about so it's not like giving a free card is a problem. Usually if I want a side pot i'd minraise the shortie shove or something like that.
02-06-2009, 02:14 AM
BankItDrew

LOL

I think it's a well played hand to be honest, great call on the flop by the way.
02-06-2009, 02:37 AM
mcatdog

All of these hands are fine except for the AJ which should not be raised or folded at any point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

hand 2: I don't see anything wrong with raising the turn. It's a great play to lose a big pot

FYP
02-06-2009, 02:57 AM
BankItDrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcatdog

All of these hands are fine except for the AJ which should not be raised or folded at any point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

hand 2: I don't see anything wrong with raising the turn. It's a great play to lose a big pot

FYP

I see what you did there.
02-06-2009, 06:00 AM
badgers

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deanglow

hand 2 just call this down most of the time raising anywhere is stupid/bad

this.

I'm interested to hear your reasoning for raising badgers. About the best reason I can come up with is villains bet sizing is relatively small, but I don't see this as enough. I don't see too much in villains range that a raise will get value from.

beer + ftr = bad hand analysis
02-06-2009, 02:42 PM
Miffed22001

In hand 1 i wanna shove the river - would do so with AQ as i know AJ isnt folding
02-06-2009, 03:31 PM
badgers

meh with more thought I think a river minraise on hand two might be good if he just bets 3 streets small since I would expect it to be Ax soooo often but raising the turnis quite scary and probably bad.