50NL QQ

UTG is playing pretty tight preflop but going apeship postflop in very minimal hands on him, hence my flat pre. BU is a tag who plays 37/25 over my 2.5k sample. BB is relatively unknown as I only have 30 hands on him but he's playing 20/20 with 10% 3bet and no steal%. I got completely lost in this hand and wanted to 4bet jam but we are a little deep and I think it's rare to see an unknown 50NLer squeeze lightly in this spot. On the flop, UTG insta shoves when checked to. I definitely think he can be the type to slowplay AA or KK in this spot, but can probably have like TT/JJ as well. I was afraid of what was also behind me. Can I fold earlier? Should I just jam preflop? Am I gay?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($68.70)
SB ($50)
BB ($71.40)
UTG ($152.65)
Hero (MP) ($86.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
UTG raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75, 1 fold, BB raises to $9, UTG calls $7.25, Hero calls $7.25, Button calls $7.25

Flop: ($36.25) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $143.65 (All-In), Hero folds, 2 folds

Total pot: $36.25 | Rake: $1.80

lol, this makes so little sense. I'm guessing he flopped a set and wants to get paid by...well you. So nice fold.

I'm fine with the initial PF call, not so sure about the second one. I might be tempted to just backraise and get it in. 4 way flop with QQ doesnt sound like fun.

Yeah my initial reaction was to backraise and get it in but then my selective memory was like wtf don't! Then I thought about it and was like hmm I really doubt people squeeze light in this spot a lot at 50NL especially since we are deep and UTG is really bad. Once he checks flop all I can think of is the BB having AK.

I sometimes find a nitty fold pre and definitely fold the flop.

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Originally Posted by bjsaust

I'm fine with the initial PF call, not so sure about the second one. I might be tempted to just backraise and get it in. 4 way flop with QQ doesnt sound like fun.

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I go with this if I didn't see the flop action(I wish you would have edited out everything postflop). I stack off here, b/c you just don't have a good enough read over 30 hands on BB and he has already 3bet before, this could be a bad squeeze and your backraise should get called light.

BTW, go to a table with more fish if these are your reads.

im so so tempted

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Originally Posted by kmind

UTG is playing pretty tight preflop but going apeship postflop i

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meh...depends how crazy he is doing, and what kind of range of hands he's showing up with. If he's going crazy and showing bluffs... I might call here. If he's going crazy and always has it.. I'll probably find a fold.

He was doing the "crazy and showing bluffs"

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Originally Posted by kmind

He was doing the "crazy and showing bluffs"

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how recently did he do this? IF he did this pretty recently, I think I fold.

i think i'd backraise pre