How much value?

Villain is 13/9/3 over 300 hands. Only history I have with him is him 3 barrelling KQo into a double paired board where I showed him an overpair. How much should should I bet here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($198.95)
Hero (MP1) ($229.10)
MP2 ($103)
CO ($117.90)
Button ($90)
SB ($83.15)
BB ($100)
UTG ($105.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif
UTG bets $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, CO calls $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($17) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($17) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $12, 1 fold, SB calls $12, 1 fold

River: ($41) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero? (Villain has $67)

i think preflop is a fold

i would just bet like 24 iguess

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Originally Posted by Renton

i think preflop is a fold

i would just bet like 24 iguess

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Meh, I almost always call this if there aren't more than 2 light squeezer behind and no shorties.

And I'd bet like $32

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Originally Posted by Renton

i think preflop is a fold

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Why fold? With effective stacks of 100 BB's, aren't we calling this every time?

in ep mp confrontations you are likely to get too much credit when you flop a set, also theres a ton of ppl left to act who could have picked up QQ+ AK and is 3-betting

defff fold pre

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Originally Posted by Renton

in ep mp confrontations you are likely to get too much credit when you flop a set, also theres a ton of ppl left to act who could have picked up QQ+ AK and is 3-betting

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should this apply to 25nl as well?

I'm pretty confused by the idea of folding pre... If he's not paying off our sets enough when we hit, is it better to call with SCs in this spot and attack his nittishness on flops that hit our perceived range? ie. raise a lot of raggy flops also flops like Axx which he is going to cbet 100% but fold to a raise a lot? Or are we just folding loads of hands until we get a better fell for his postflop tendancies?

Looks like a pretty fun $33 bet on river.

badger its a fold pre vs anyone

ok wow i still have lots of leaks... :(

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Originally Posted by Renton

badger its a fold pre vs anyone

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rent, agree with your post.
Whats your minimum to call here vs a typical winning fr player - 66/77 ?