Flopped top two and turned fd

v is 24/12/1.8

whats optimal if his range includes fds, sds, str8s TT, combos, and heavily discounted QQ/KK/AA

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Button ($34.30)
SB ($10.40)
BB ($68)
Hero (UTG) ($92.40)
MP ($76.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
Hero bets $2, MP calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP raises to $8, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($20.75) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif(2 players)
Hero bets ???

I'd make it $22 on the flop and ship the turn unless I think I can check/raise blank turn cards.

Would draws and combos shove over the flop 3bet 150 bb deep?

In any case - I lead turn for 15 and he shoved over. Do we ship it?

man you have 13 outs even vs the nuts, plus YOU can't ever have the nuts...

Turn: ($20.75) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $15, MP raises to $66.35 (All-In),

Wow i just did some stuff in pstove and i guess i underestimated my equity

Board: Ts Kh Qh 7s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.253% 33.79% 03.46% 684 70.00 { KsQs }
Hand 1: 62.747% 59.29% 03.46% 1200 70.00 { KK-QQ, TT, AJs, KQs, KTs, QTs, JhTh, J9s, AJo, KQo, J9o }


Which pretty much gives me just enough odds to call this down.

zomg u folded?

hell no - i just hesitated a bit

why on earth did we lead the turn? we are pretty far behind this guys range and should be looking to check call and play a river

ok this is kinda what I was looking for but was not sure. I expected some people to say get the money in when we have most equity, but I just didnt understand when we are ever ahead of him enough.

nutsinho - would you 3bet/ship flop?

check shoving the turn isn t that bad either but seriously I can't really figure out why you lead the turn?

Well, I really didn't want to give a free card to draws, but is it that so much more of his range already has us beat that giving a free card actually helps us more him?

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Originally Posted by humanfugitive

nutsinho - would you 3bet/ship flop?

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i said i thought that we were pretty far behind his range. why would you think i would recommend this

so I'm assuming you're not looking to get value against part of his range that we do beat ie fds/str8ds?

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Originally Posted by humanfugitive

so I'm assuming you're not looking to get value against part of his range that we do beat ie fds/str8ds?

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don t worry about part of his range, worry about the best play vs his entire range

Ok similar hand - is this a spot where we are looking for a cheap showdown

v is 21/16

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($50)
BB ($48)
Hero (UTG) ($65.55)
MP ($60.30)
CO ($122.90)
Button ($50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
Hero bets $2, MP calls $2, 4 folds

Flop: ($4.75) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($22.75) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $11, Hero calls $11

River: ($44.75) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $23, Hero folds

i usually shove this flop because we have combo draws so fking crushed and the nut redraw to boot.

i like your turn and river lines as played at these stakes