Top two riv bet size decision + TPTK stuff.

Hand1

Vill in this hand is a prettttty tight 16/12/3. I've been playing my std game at 20/18. I set it up for a PSB shove on the riv, but realized he's probably not going to call a PSB with QQ or worse here a lil deep. Wat to bet.?

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($37.50)
CO ($104.60)
BTN ($168.00)
SB ($47.05)
Hero (BB) ($154.70)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is BB :td: :jc:
2 folds, BTN raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, BTN calls $8

Flop: :js: :th: :6c: ($22.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN calls $14

Turn: :5h: ($50.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $31, BTN calls $31

River: :8s: ($112.50, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $98.70, BTN folds



Hand 2

Vill in this hand is a fish, 40/5/2 or something rediculous (only got one orbit on him though). Um...comments on betsizing appreciated on this one also. Is this a bet pot - bet pot - shove situation against this fellow?

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (UTG) ($100.00)
UTG+1 ($109.30)
CO ($70.30)
BTN ($100.00)
SB ($105.75)
BB ($37.50)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG :as: :jh:
Hero raises to $3, UTG+1 calls $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: :8h: :jc: :6s: ($12, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $7, UTG+1 calls $7, SB folds, BB folds

Turn: :3c: ($26, 2 players)
Hero bets $17, UTG+1 calls $17

River: :9d: ($60, 2 players)
Hero bets $29, UTG+1 goes all-in $82.30

1: bet a bit more on the turn, like $38 and that will set up a $90 --> $130 river shove.

2: bet bigger. fold river as played but if you size your bets better you should be able to get it in by the river.

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Originally Posted by bode

1: bet a bit more on the turn, like $38 and that will set up a $90 --> $130 river shove.

2: bet bigger. fold river as played but if you size your bets better you should be able to get it in by the river.

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16/36/jam

9/23/jam

Hand 1 - I don't mind the flop bet sizing, if he's liable to raise some draw if you look weak. As played, definitely jam river, if he has any hand with value he might put you on KQ/AK/AQ and call.

Hand 2 - Once we're HU on turn with fish I definitely bet stronger on turn, and probably bet around 45ish on river.

1- 35/jam .. std
2- Your goal is usually to shove your stack on the river, so especially against fish do not worry about balancing your bet sizes, just set it up so you can shove river. As played fold.

definitely need to bet bigger on turn in hand 1. not just because of the draws but because if the board pairs then your hand suddenly becomes mediocre. i might even be closer to 38 or 40 because of this. also a 3bet pot against a tight player (depending on how much you've been 3betting) seems like he has an overpair as played, so he's A) not going to fold to most bets and B) not going to raise most bets, so you're controlling the pot in spite of your position so try to get as much in as you can while you still have equity.